Comments on: Are There Any Good Choices Between Klingons and Cylons? http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/ Finding the keys to the future…and trying not to lose them in the mess. Wed, 23 May 2012 17:55:26 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: AdmiralAdama http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/comment-page-1/#comment-109803 AdmiralAdama Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:37:53 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/#comment-109803 Well I'm four years late to the party and humans still run amok. But I have to ask the OP .... Are you Cylon Sharon? ;) An engaging post and follow on comments. AA Well I’m four years late to the party and humans still run amok. But I have to ask the OP ….
Are you Cylon Sharon?
;)

An engaging post and follow on comments.
AA

]]> By: Sorting out possible scenarios for the future « UKIAH BLOG http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/comment-page-1/#comment-61230 Sorting out possible scenarios for the future « UKIAH BLOG Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:16:27 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/#comment-61230 [...] Unfortunately, most of the time we imagine only a few of them. Most Americans are caught up in the Klingons/Cylons distinction in ways that are destructive – the default assumption is a techno-utopianism that [...] [...] Unfortunately, most of the time we imagine only a few of them. Most Americans are caught up in the Klingons/Cylons distinction in ways that are destructive – the default assumption is a techno-utopianism that [...]

]]> By: John E http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/comment-page-1/#comment-60861 John E Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:39:19 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/#comment-60861 I offer as counter-point, the alt-text to http://www.xkcd.com/893/ "The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there's no good reason to go into space--each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision." I offer as counter-point, the alt-text to http://www.xkcd.com/893/

“The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there’s no good reason to go into space–each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision.”

]]> By: Collin http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/comment-page-1/#comment-57221 Collin Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:15:41 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/#comment-57221 This is what I've been thinking too. The problem is that your Casaubon's Book site doesn't portray this image (not that I have any better idea). Specifically, I think you should get rid of that chicken. It gives the unfortunate impression of yelling "the sky is falling", based on the folk-tale of Chicken Little. I think I may have made that connection unconsciously at first, causing my negative reaction to your site. This is what I’ve been thinking too. The problem is that your Casaubon’s Book site doesn’t portray this image (not that I have any better idea). Specifically, I think you should get rid of that chicken. It gives the unfortunate impression of yelling “the sky is falling”, based on the folk-tale of Chicken Little. I think I may have made that connection unconsciously at first, causing my negative reaction to your site.

]]> By: Madelene http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/comment-page-1/#comment-52455 Madelene Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:24:44 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/#comment-52455 I don’t know what to state except that I have savored reading. I don’t know what to state except that I have savored reading.

]]> By: Robbyn http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/comment-page-1/#comment-5708 Robbyn Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:15:34 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/#comment-5708 Uhoh, computer problems...please delete the repetitive re-commenting of the one comment of mine that got sent 3x...lol thanks! Uhoh, computer problems…please delete the repetitive re-commenting of the one comment of mine that got sent 3x…lol thanks!

]]> By: Robbyn http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/comment-page-1/#comment-5707 Robbyn Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:12:31 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/#comment-5707 Sharon, I love your site, and have for some time...particularly loved this post! For the record, I prefer the term "subsistence" for the simple reason that many of us are being forced to re-examine the traditional wisdom modern Big Ag and consumerism abandoned in favor of "progress"... Whatever the term conjures, to me it's positive in that I have a new appreciation for the "old," which seems to be lacking altogether in the mainstream corporate-driven machine in which there is no individual solving his own problems with his own two hands, one hand tool at a time. I'm not eloquent and I'm often intimidated coming here because I can't participate in the academic conversation...but just letting you know I so appreciate your thoughts...they're fodder for many discussions between my husband and me as we plan our near futures. Sharon, I love your site, and have for some time…particularly loved this post!

For the record, I prefer the term “subsistence” for the simple reason that many of us are being forced to re-examine the traditional wisdom modern Big Ag and consumerism abandoned in favor of “progress”…

Whatever the term conjures, to me it’s positive in that I have a new appreciation for the “old,” which seems to be lacking altogether in the mainstream corporate-driven machine in which there is no individual solving his own problems with his own two hands, one hand tool at a time.

I’m not eloquent and I’m often intimidated coming here because I can’t participate in the academic conversation…but just letting you know I so appreciate your thoughts…they’re fodder for many discussions between my husband and me as we plan our near futures.

]]> By: Robbyn http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/comment-page-1/#comment-5706 Robbyn Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:12:12 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/#comment-5706 Sharon, I love your site, and have for some time...particularly loved this post! For the record, I prefer the term "subsistence" for the simple reason that many of us are being forced to re-examine the traditional wisdom modern Big Ag and consumerism abandoned in favor of "progress"... Whatever the term conjures, to me it's positive in that I have a new appreciation for the "old," which seems to be lacking altogether in the mainstream corporate-driven machine in which there is no individual solving his own problems with his own two hands, one hand tool at a time. I'm not eloquent and I'm often intimidated coming here because I can't participate in the academic conversation...but just letting you know I so appreciate your thoughts...they're fodder for many conversations between my husband and me as we plan our near futures. Sharon, I love your site, and have for some time…particularly loved this post!

For the record, I prefer the term “subsistence” for the simple reason that many of us are being forced to re-examine the traditional wisdom modern Big Ag and consumerism abandoned in favor of “progress”…

Whatever the term conjures, to me it’s positive in that I have a new appreciation for the “old,” which seems to be lacking altogether in the mainstream corporate-driven machine in which there is no individual solving his own problems with his own two hands, one hand tool at a time.

I’m not eloquent and I’m often intimidated coming here because I can’t participate in the academic conversation…but just letting you know I so appreciate your thoughts…they’re fodder for many conversations between my husband and me as we plan our near futures.

]]> By: Robbyn http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/comment-page-1/#comment-5705 Robbyn Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:09:56 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/#comment-5705 Sharon, I love your site, and have for some time...particularly loved this post! For the record, I prefer the term "subsistence" for the simple reason that many of us are being forced to re-examine the traditional wisdom modern Big Ag and consumerism abandoned in favor of "progress"... Whatever the term conjures, to me it's positive in that I have a new appreciation for the "old," which seems to be lacking altogether in the mainstream corporate-driven machine in which there is no individual solving his own problems with his own two hands, one hand tool at a time. I'm not eloquent and I'm often intimidated coming here because I've not had the same academic exposure, and am most times better not trying to join the conversation...but just letting you know I so appreciate your thoughts...they're fodder for many conversations between my husband and me as we plan our near futures. Sharon, I love your site, and have for some time…particularly loved this post!

For the record, I prefer the term “subsistence” for the simple reason that many of us are being forced to re-examine the traditional wisdom modern Big Ag and consumerism abandoned in favor of “progress”…

Whatever the term conjures, to me it’s positive in that I have a new appreciation for the “old,” which seems to be lacking altogether in the mainstream corporate-driven machine in which there is no individual solving his own problems with his own two hands, one hand tool at a time.

I’m not eloquent and I’m often intimidated coming here because I’ve not had the same academic exposure, and am most times better not trying to join the conversation…but just letting you know I so appreciate your thoughts…they’re fodder for many conversations between my husband and me as we plan our near futures.

]]> By: Rebecca http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/comment-page-1/#comment-5704 Rebecca Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:33:17 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/05/30/are-there-any-good-choices-between-klingons-and-cylons/#comment-5704 Hey Sharon, For what it's worth, I do think we will go into space eventually. When I say eventually I mean maybe in several thousand years. It's more than technically possible, and if we don't kill ourselves or meet our end first, then our remote descendants will have to do that eventually to avoid roasting when the sun swells up. As for going to other planets to "civilize" them, I think we need to civilize ourselves first! Dewey, I think Lovelock's problem is that he's old, he sees the Long Walk coming up, and he translates that onto everything else. My grandmother is about the same age and has been a lifelong activist -civil rights, peace, environmental, you name it, she's done it -and over the past few years she's gotten more and more pessimistic. She's now convinced that the world is going to get worse and worse until we kill ourselves and everything else off. I'm thinking about this now because I just had this disucssion with her today. Again. *sigh* Hey Sharon,
For what it’s worth, I do think we will go into space eventually. When I say eventually I mean maybe in several thousand years. It’s more than technically possible, and if we don’t kill ourselves or meet our end first, then our remote descendants will have to do that eventually to avoid roasting when the sun swells up. As for going to other planets to “civilize” them, I think we need to civilize ourselves first!

Dewey,
I think Lovelock’s problem is that he’s old, he sees the Long Walk coming up, and he translates that onto everything else. My grandmother is about the same age and has been a lifelong activist -civil rights, peace, environmental, you name it, she’s done it -and over the past few years she’s gotten more and more pessimistic. She’s now convinced that the world is going to get worse and worse until we kill ourselves and everything else off. I’m thinking about this now because I just had this disucssion with her today. Again. *sigh*

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