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		<title>By: Root crops &#38; classes &#171; Ward House</title>
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		<dc:creator>Root crops &#38; classes &#171; Ward House</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try not to focus on this issue too much as I am prone to anxiety attacks, but I do think about it (as anyone prone to anxiety attacks does). I do not know what I will be in any post-cheap-everything society. The jobs I&#039;ve held over my lifetime are jobs that I could get - mostly clerical. I doubt that anyone will care too much about the ability to type fast or compose a professional, well written letter if/when society as we know it evolves into whatever is next. I do have other skill sets. I can, I garden, I knit, I can sew. I can tend to horses and dogs and pigs and chickens and treat reasonably substantial (but non life threatening) wounds in all of these animals.

We have a little over nine acres and I know that with some careful planning this property can supply us and our neighbors with a significant amount of food. For those of you who garden, are you applying some permaculture principles to your properties? I&#039;ve recently come to believe that these will be and are some of the most important food supplying systems of our land. Plant hardy trees and bushes that offer fruit without ridiculous amounts of care. Plant edible and medicinal perennials that thrive with little or no irrigation. And of course, supplement all of that with a kitchen garden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try not to focus on this issue too much as I am prone to anxiety attacks, but I do think about it (as anyone prone to anxiety attacks does). I do not know what I will be in any post-cheap-everything society. The jobs I&#8217;ve held over my lifetime are jobs that I could get &#8211; mostly clerical. I doubt that anyone will care too much about the ability to type fast or compose a professional, well written letter if/when society as we know it evolves into whatever is next. I do have other skill sets. I can, I garden, I knit, I can sew. I can tend to horses and dogs and pigs and chickens and treat reasonably substantial (but non life threatening) wounds in all of these animals.</p>
<p>We have a little over nine acres and I know that with some careful planning this property can supply us and our neighbors with a significant amount of food. For those of you who garden, are you applying some permaculture principles to your properties? I&#8217;ve recently come to believe that these will be and are some of the most important food supplying systems of our land. Plant hardy trees and bushes that offer fruit without ridiculous amounts of care. Plant edible and medicinal perennials that thrive with little or no irrigation. And of course, supplement all of that with a kitchen garden.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another library-staff here! I do believe that we are all here because we are all well read and are exposed the the newest books and information to a higher degree than the general population.

We live in a small farming community so we will be well off with locally grown food IF we as a community figure out seed saving. Not enough of this going around yet.

My dh and I both love to garden, he has a market garden now, I have a largish home garden.

We have a fairly large house so renting out rooms is a possibility.

I can a lot so offering how-to classes. Know most forms of handwork as well.

I am planning on increasing our stock of non-electric appliances like a  wheat grinder and dehydrator. Need to convince hubby to put in a woodstove, we had one at the farm, not here in town.

We did purchase a few more bikes this year for our large family of 8. Being in town makes riding most everywhere do-able. I like the point raised that those who live closer to the job may hold the jobs longer than those who have transportation difficulties. I see this a bit now as I, who live 2 blocks from the library, get called in for fill-in more than the other part-timer who lives 7 miles out. I can justify biking to work for a 2-3 hours whereas she can&#039;t justify the gas usage for such a short shift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another library-staff here! I do believe that we are all here because we are all well read and are exposed the the newest books and information to a higher degree than the general population.</p>
<p>We live in a small farming community so we will be well off with locally grown food IF we as a community figure out seed saving. Not enough of this going around yet.</p>
<p>My dh and I both love to garden, he has a market garden now, I have a largish home garden.</p>
<p>We have a fairly large house so renting out rooms is a possibility.</p>
<p>I can a lot so offering how-to classes. Know most forms of handwork as well.</p>
<p>I am planning on increasing our stock of non-electric appliances like a  wheat grinder and dehydrator. Need to convince hubby to put in a woodstove, we had one at the farm, not here in town.</p>
<p>We did purchase a few more bikes this year for our large family of 8. Being in town makes riding most everywhere do-able. I like the point raised that those who live closer to the job may hold the jobs longer than those who have transportation difficulties. I see this a bit now as I, who live 2 blocks from the library, get called in for fill-in more than the other part-timer who lives 7 miles out. I can justify biking to work for a 2-3 hours whereas she can&#8217;t justify the gas usage for such a short shift.</p>
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		<title>By: linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hairdresser here (somebody asked!). Yeah, I forgot that I had that skill since i haven&#039;t worked in a while. Been studying web/graphic design which will probably be useless. Husband is a bricklayer so that may work out for awhile. I seriously am thinking about going to nursing school, at least as an LPN but somebody mentioned paramedic training to me as well. Kids are being taught some skills, some home things, like sewing and preserving food, and they are being taught the many aspects of masonry, slowly of course. Does anybody have anything to say to kids who are two years shy of college? lately I have been thinking, &quot;don&#039;t go to university, get a trade.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hairdresser here (somebody asked!). Yeah, I forgot that I had that skill since i haven&#8217;t worked in a while. Been studying web/graphic design which will probably be useless. Husband is a bricklayer so that may work out for awhile. I seriously am thinking about going to nursing school, at least as an LPN but somebody mentioned paramedic training to me as well. Kids are being taught some skills, some home things, like sewing and preserving food, and they are being taught the many aspects of masonry, slowly of course. Does anybody have anything to say to kids who are two years shy of college? lately I have been thinking, &#8220;don&#8217;t go to university, get a trade.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tk</title>
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		<dc:creator>tk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got nothin&#039;. I&#039;m a &quot;professional patient&quot; with a serious and chronic illness, and my spouse is a computer engineer. Without his insurance and without appropriate drugs I&#039;ll probably just die if anything goes down. Natural selection and all that. Before I got sick I thought I&#039;d like to help out in a dry-goods store. I read too much Little House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got nothin&#8217;. I&#8217;m a &#8220;professional patient&#8221; with a serious and chronic illness, and my spouse is a computer engineer. Without his insurance and without appropriate drugs I&#8217;ll probably just die if anything goes down. Natural selection and all that. Before I got sick I thought I&#8217;d like to help out in a dry-goods store. I read too much Little House.</p>
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		<title>By: o'shanahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>o'shanahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have spent 30 years getting ready for this so we are pretty set. Farm paid off, no debt, big garden, cellar, wood heat, animals for food and fertilizer and protection, etc.  But we are still dependent on fuel for transport to town, running chainsaws and tractors and electricity would be nice to continue to afford!   Our jobs are homemade as well so we are used to making due with sporadic income.  Problem as I see it is cash flow getting too thin for the necessities such as various hard goods and the big one...paying the property taxes.  We will also need some younger bodies to do the hard labor when we get too old, but if times get tough enough there may be more people willing to work for room and board.  Banding together with neighbors you can relate to and trust will become ever more essential.  Look to the Amish for the solutions for many problems.  No need to re-invent the wheel; its all there....except for the electricity and fuel.  I&#039;m hoping this country decides to go in a direction of invidual, neighborhood and regional clean and renewable (wind, solar, wave, geothermal, river) systems for electricity generation rather than the current centralized burn and distribute model.  No doubt the Fat Cats won&#039;t like that idea but it really is the only way for our grandkids to have a world worth growing old in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have spent 30 years getting ready for this so we are pretty set. Farm paid off, no debt, big garden, cellar, wood heat, animals for food and fertilizer and protection, etc.  But we are still dependent on fuel for transport to town, running chainsaws and tractors and electricity would be nice to continue to afford!   Our jobs are homemade as well so we are used to making due with sporadic income.  Problem as I see it is cash flow getting too thin for the necessities such as various hard goods and the big one&#8230;paying the property taxes.  We will also need some younger bodies to do the hard labor when we get too old, but if times get tough enough there may be more people willing to work for room and board.  Banding together with neighbors you can relate to and trust will become ever more essential.  Look to the Amish for the solutions for many problems.  No need to re-invent the wheel; its all there&#8230;.except for the electricity and fuel.  I&#8217;m hoping this country decides to go in a direction of invidual, neighborhood and regional clean and renewable (wind, solar, wave, geothermal, river) systems for electricity generation rather than the current centralized burn and distribute model.  No doubt the Fat Cats won&#8217;t like that idea but it really is the only way for our grandkids to have a world worth growing old in.</p>
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		<title>By: Herbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting number of librarians.  And I know way too many as well.

I&#039;m currently an Economics major in a liberal arts college.  Not to use how well that will be.  But I&#039;m good at managing things -finances, workload division, and am generally good at getting along with people.

My most-developed skill set though is writing procedures.  Mostly for business but I think I can adapt it without too much trouble.  People always need to know how to do things, at least.

I&#039;ve also done marketing, and while the trend finding and graph making are useful, but I am not cut out to be a marketer, I learned that this summer.

I&#039;m not a very strong person, but I also dig a mean ditch.

I&#039;m just getting started into gardening and food preservation and medicinal uses for herbs, but I hope to develop those skill sets over the past couple of years.

As any resort, I&#039;m a very decent cook, good with imrpovization and not letting things go to waste.  People will always need to eat.

I also can look at stuff and a container and tell you whether or not the stuff will fit.  I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s terribly useful though.

/Herbert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting number of librarians.  And I know way too many as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently an Economics major in a liberal arts college.  Not to use how well that will be.  But I&#8217;m good at managing things -finances, workload division, and am generally good at getting along with people.</p>
<p>My most-developed skill set though is writing procedures.  Mostly for business but I think I can adapt it without too much trouble.  People always need to know how to do things, at least.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also done marketing, and while the trend finding and graph making are useful, but I am not cut out to be a marketer, I learned that this summer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a very strong person, but I also dig a mean ditch.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just getting started into gardening and food preservation and medicinal uses for herbs, but I hope to develop those skill sets over the past couple of years.</p>
<p>As any resort, I&#8217;m a very decent cook, good with imrpovization and not letting things go to waste.  People will always need to eat.</p>
<p>I also can look at stuff and a container and tell you whether or not the stuff will fit.  I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s terribly useful though.</p>
<p>/Herbert.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristi -- Thinking about this, I&#039;ve been looking at the jobs borrowers have on Kiva.org.  In third-world countries there&#039;s lots of food production (especially street food), small-scale agriculture and herding and fishing, brewing, traveling sales of practically everything.  I could see myself setting up production of some sort of baked good or crunchy snack to sell on the street or off the front porch in addition to teaching and gardening and whatever.  I&#039;m a pretty good cook, though I don&#039;t have the oven to set myself up as a serious bread baker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristi &#8212; Thinking about this, I&#8217;ve been looking at the jobs borrowers have on Kiva.org.  In third-world countries there&#8217;s lots of food production (especially street food), small-scale agriculture and herding and fishing, brewing, traveling sales of practically everything.  I could see myself setting up production of some sort of baked good or crunchy snack to sell on the street or off the front porch in addition to teaching and gardening and whatever.  I&#8217;m a pretty good cook, though I don&#8217;t have the oven to set myself up as a serious bread baker.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another (ex-)chemist here....

I see a lot of &quot;I can garden, knit, can food,&quot; and while those are great skills that will be needed more in the coming years, they won&#039;t be paying jobs.  Maybe at first people will look to the knitters and gardeners for education, but soon we will be teaching all our children these skills* and they won&#039;t be sellable.

I think that we need to look back 100 years to what sorts of jobs would be more available in a post-peak world.  What jobs were there before the advent of oil?  Butchers, bakers, chemists (pharmacists), doctors, lawers, merchants, and lots of farmers.  People involved in transport included seamen, railroads were way more prevalent, people with wagons who moved things from the railroads to the purchasers&#039; homes.  Travelling salesmen.  Nurseries.

I also think we need to look forward, as well.  Hopefully solar panels and wind turbines will keep popping up.  Micro hydro looks promising.  People will need to be trained to install and maintain these.

When I think of a peak-oil future, I think of a post-war Germany-type scenario.  Schools still functioned.  My father-in-law was planning on going to college, but had to take a year to train as a mechanic as a marketable skill.  Commerce happened, even with an inflated currency.

Is it just me or are the &quot;prepare and plod on&quot;-ers all women, and the mutually assured destruction, TEOTWAWKI-ers men?


*I was going to say daughters, because traditionally that&#039;s who had these skills, but with gender lines blurred these days....  I was told by a Norwegian friend that back in the 1940s all students, male and female, had to be able to knit a sweater as part of high school graduation - it was an essential life skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another (ex-)chemist here&#8230;.</p>
<p>I see a lot of &#8220;I can garden, knit, can food,&#8221; and while those are great skills that will be needed more in the coming years, they won&#8217;t be paying jobs.  Maybe at first people will look to the knitters and gardeners for education, but soon we will be teaching all our children these skills* and they won&#8217;t be sellable.</p>
<p>I think that we need to look back 100 years to what sorts of jobs would be more available in a post-peak world.  What jobs were there before the advent of oil?  Butchers, bakers, chemists (pharmacists), doctors, lawers, merchants, and lots of farmers.  People involved in transport included seamen, railroads were way more prevalent, people with wagons who moved things from the railroads to the purchasers&#8217; homes.  Travelling salesmen.  Nurseries.</p>
<p>I also think we need to look forward, as well.  Hopefully solar panels and wind turbines will keep popping up.  Micro hydro looks promising.  People will need to be trained to install and maintain these.</p>
<p>When I think of a peak-oil future, I think of a post-war Germany-type scenario.  Schools still functioned.  My father-in-law was planning on going to college, but had to take a year to train as a mechanic as a marketable skill.  Commerce happened, even with an inflated currency.</p>
<p>Is it just me or are the &#8220;prepare and plod on&#8221;-ers all women, and the mutually assured destruction, TEOTWAWKI-ers men?</p>
<p>*I was going to say daughters, because traditionally that&#8217;s who had these skills, but with gender lines blurred these days&#8230;.  I was told by a Norwegian friend that back in the 1940s all students, male and female, had to be able to knit a sweater as part of high school graduation &#8211; it was an essential life skill.</p>
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		<title>By: Meadowlark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meadowlark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad actually started to build a coffin that would double as a glass-topped coffee table until needed.

My mom nixed the idea. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad actually started to build a coffin that would double as a glass-topped coffee table until needed.</p>
<p>My mom nixed the idea. <img src='http://sharonastyk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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