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		<title>By: Survival Toileting 101 and approaching prepping &#171; Wildflower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Survival Toileting 101 and approaching prepping &#171; Wildflower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there&#8217;s no need to reinvent the wheel, since she covers Survival Toileting 101 adeptly.              August 15th, 2008 &#124; Category: 12 weeks to survival readiness, week [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alison Cummins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Cummins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised nobody&#039;s mentioned the traditional corn cob for wiping. (It doesn&#039;t work with flush toilets, obviously.)</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this may get some commotion going.  I love Joe Jenkins and his work and consider him a national hero and I think of The Humanure Handbook as divinely inspired.  I don&#039;t do all of what Joe does/ recommends, however.  It just always seemed to me that with turning the pile and so on to make sure everything on the edges reached thermophilic temperatures, it was possible to not get a complete compost, so I came up with something entirely different which I&#039;ve been using for several years, and that is processing the material with red worms --Eisenia  Foetida--and I&#039;ve found the results to be very complete, the material produced to actually have a very sweet, earthy scent and as lots of you know, there&#039;s nothing comparable to worm castings for plant nutrition, soil conditioning and so on.

During the winter here (central Ill.) when its too cold to keep the bins outside because the worms would freeze, they get stacked off to the side in my one room &quot;home&quot; next to the barn.  And the bins are simply the 30 qt. totes they sell at Wally&#039;s for $5 or $6.  Drill a few vent holes above the level of the material and your done.  Not to mention that over time you wind up with a lot of worms which can be used for feeding poultry or other composting jobs.  It is so simple, so easy to manage and the end product is to die for.  What&#039;s not to love?

I am, of course, bracing for an eruption of &quot;it absolutely must reach thermophilic temperatures to be safe&quot; and so on.  I don&#039;t have scientific data to prove the point, but I&#039;ve found it to be completely safe and not in any way offensive anywhere along the line.  I handle the end product with my bare hands all the time and its just not an issue.  It is, after all, just poop (before its processed), not nuclear waste or something.  Its not any more biologically threatening than a dog&#039;s waste or that of a pig or any other non-ruminant and none of those products is treated in any way.  In fact lots of folks use the pigs to till the garden for them.

So I&#039;m hoping this can be discussed as another option, but I&#039;m also kind of expecting that there may be some strong disagreement.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this may get some commotion going.  I love Joe Jenkins and his work and consider him a national hero and I think of The Humanure Handbook as divinely inspired.  I don&#8217;t do all of what Joe does/ recommends, however.  It just always seemed to me that with turning the pile and so on to make sure everything on the edges reached thermophilic temperatures, it was possible to not get a complete compost, so I came up with something entirely different which I&#8217;ve been using for several years, and that is processing the material with red worms &#8211;Eisenia  Foetida&#8211;and I&#8217;ve found the results to be very complete, the material produced to actually have a very sweet, earthy scent and as lots of you know, there&#8217;s nothing comparable to worm castings for plant nutrition, soil conditioning and so on.</p>
<p>During the winter here (central Ill.) when its too cold to keep the bins outside because the worms would freeze, they get stacked off to the side in my one room &#8220;home&#8221; next to the barn.  And the bins are simply the 30 qt. totes they sell at Wally&#8217;s for $5 or $6.  Drill a few vent holes above the level of the material and your done.  Not to mention that over time you wind up with a lot of worms which can be used for feeding poultry or other composting jobs.  It is so simple, so easy to manage and the end product is to die for.  What&#8217;s not to love?</p>
<p>I am, of course, bracing for an eruption of &#8220;it absolutely must reach thermophilic temperatures to be safe&#8221; and so on.  I don&#8217;t have scientific data to prove the point, but I&#8217;ve found it to be completely safe and not in any way offensive anywhere along the line.  I handle the end product with my bare hands all the time and its just not an issue.  It is, after all, just poop (before its processed), not nuclear waste or something.  Its not any more biologically threatening than a dog&#8217;s waste or that of a pig or any other non-ruminant and none of those products is treated in any way.  In fact lots of folks use the pigs to till the garden for them.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m hoping this can be discussed as another option, but I&#8217;m also kind of expecting that there may be some strong disagreement.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was a kid every washing machine had a sudsaver. A big tub that held the soapy water while a load finished and then used it on the succeeding loads. Sort of like serial bathing for your laundry. I&#039;ve tried stopping the washer as the wash cycle finishes, pulling one load out of the washer, replacing it with the second load, and repeating the wash cycle. A sudsaver would be less labor intensive.
      I hang laundry outside in the summer. I could do it in the winter, too, but we appreciate the extra humidity in the house. In Ireland they refer to laundry day afternoon rains as &quot;the final rinse.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a kid every washing machine had a sudsaver. A big tub that held the soapy water while a load finished and then used it on the succeeding loads. Sort of like serial bathing for your laundry. I&#8217;ve tried stopping the washer as the wash cycle finishes, pulling one load out of the washer, replacing it with the second load, and repeating the wash cycle. A sudsaver would be less labor intensive.<br />
      I hang laundry outside in the summer. I could do it in the winter, too, but we appreciate the extra humidity in the house. In Ireland they refer to laundry day afternoon rains as &#8220;the final rinse.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mezzaluna</title>
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		<dc:creator>mezzaluna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wanted to put in a plug for elimination communication with your babies.  babies are aware of their elimination needs from birth, but we condition that awareness out of them when we put them in diapers.  by becoming aware of your baby&#039;s potty cues and helping them stay in touch with their sensations you&#039;ll save on diaper laundry both in terms of fewer diapers used per day and likely earlier time to complete potty training.

people all around the world have done this forever... cloth diapers may seem like a &quot;natural&quot; option, but there weren&#039;t fuzzibunz 1000 years ago, lol!  and not everyone in the world today has the money and time to acquire and wash lots of cloth for diapering.

of course you still need to figure out what to do with their pee and poop anyway, but reducing your waste stream of sposies or washing resources for cloth (and resources to make the cloth diapers!) can only be a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wanted to put in a plug for elimination communication with your babies.  babies are aware of their elimination needs from birth, but we condition that awareness out of them when we put them in diapers.  by becoming aware of your baby&#8217;s potty cues and helping them stay in touch with their sensations you&#8217;ll save on diaper laundry both in terms of fewer diapers used per day and likely earlier time to complete potty training.</p>
<p>people all around the world have done this forever&#8230; cloth diapers may seem like a &#8220;natural&#8221; option, but there weren&#8217;t fuzzibunz 1000 years ago, lol!  and not everyone in the world today has the money and time to acquire and wash lots of cloth for diapering.</p>
<p>of course you still need to figure out what to do with their pee and poop anyway, but reducing your waste stream of sposies or washing resources for cloth (and resources to make the cloth diapers!) can only be a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Colorado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve in Colorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are solar powered composting toilets. The one I am most familiar with is the &quot;Sunny John&quot; by John Cruickshank. You can see his design and order plans at  http://www.sunnyjohn.com/toiletpapers2.htm.

This design works in Colorado (more sun than some places). But the idea is sound. Basically use solar radiation to heat the place where you sit as well as the compost. Solves a key humanure problem in cold climates, keeping th epile working over the winter.

For those that can use it, something along these lines seems like a very sustainable solution...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are solar powered composting toilets. The one I am most familiar with is the &#8220;Sunny John&#8221; by John Cruickshank. You can see his design and order plans at  <a href="http://www.sunnyjohn.com/toiletpapers2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sunnyjohn.com/toiletpapers2.htm</a>.</p>
<p>This design works in Colorado (more sun than some places). But the idea is sound. Basically use solar radiation to heat the place where you sit as well as the compost. Solves a key humanure problem in cold climates, keeping th epile working over the winter.</p>
<p>For those that can use it, something along these lines seems like a very sustainable solution&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat - I just bought the cheapest can of all purpose spray enamel interior/exterior for spraying the soda bottles.  Of course, I&#039;ve been using them outdoors.  If you are spraying them for interior use, I&#039;d let them air outside from now till fall, the stuff has plenty of toxic chemicals in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat &#8211; I just bought the cheapest can of all purpose spray enamel interior/exterior for spraying the soda bottles.  Of course, I&#8217;ve been using them outdoors.  If you are spraying them for interior use, I&#8217;d let them air outside from now till fall, the stuff has plenty of toxic chemicals in it.</p>
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		<title>By: robj98168</title>
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		<dc:creator>robj98168</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biolet.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;composting toilet system- you can have these in two bathrooms, the waste goes into the composster, is heated and in a short time made into beautiful compost for your flower garden. The heating system can be solar. I know this is another product to buy, but could be retrofitted into most houses. As far as flushing, well as a plumber, I can say the poop in your sanitary lines doesn&#039;t exactly go away with one flush anyway, so gravity has to take over!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a <a href="http://www.biolet.com/" rel="nofollow">composting toilet system- you can have these in two bathrooms, the waste goes into the composster, is heated and in a short time made into beautiful compost for your flower garden. The heating system can be solar. I know this is another product to buy, but could be retrofitted into most houses. As far as flushing, well as a plumber, I can say the poop in your sanitary lines doesn&#8217;t exactly go away with one flush anyway, so gravity has to take over!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greenpa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greenpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those not familiar, I do recommend my composting outhouse design; humorously referred to as the THWASPCO.  The first post on my blog is
http://littlebloginthebigwoods.blogspot.com/2007/04/poop-glorious-poop.html

There a quite a few posts- best idea is to search for THWASPCO, and &quot;potty house&quot;.

This is not a short term solution- it&#039;s a long term, even permanent one.  Substantial construction required.  The outcome, though, is a fully sanitary facility which composts the poop- and you don&#039;t ever even have to shovel it out.  That was a surprise to me, but after 20 some years, it&#039;s true; the 3 composting pits have so much extra capacity that by the time we need to rotate to the next pit- the material in it has had time to decompose entirely to water and carbon dioxide- which just disappear up the stack.

The value of human poop for fertilizer is substantial, to be sure.  Processing it to remove disease threats requires vigilance, though.  The THWASPCO basically puts disease organisms into a dead-end world, where most will just disappear, die, and- compost.  A few things might survive- bacterial spores can be nearly indestructible- that aspect is untested.  Since we never shovel it out, though- it&#039;s a moot question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those not familiar, I do recommend my composting outhouse design; humorously referred to as the THWASPCO.  The first post on my blog is<br />
<a href="http://littlebloginthebigwoods.blogspot.com/2007/04/poop-glorious-poop.html" rel="nofollow">http://littlebloginthebigwoods.blogspot.com/2007/04/poop-glorious-poop.html</a></p>
<p>There a quite a few posts- best idea is to search for THWASPCO, and &#8220;potty house&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is not a short term solution- it&#8217;s a long term, even permanent one.  Substantial construction required.  The outcome, though, is a fully sanitary facility which composts the poop- and you don&#8217;t ever even have to shovel it out.  That was a surprise to me, but after 20 some years, it&#8217;s true; the 3 composting pits have so much extra capacity that by the time we need to rotate to the next pit- the material in it has had time to decompose entirely to water and carbon dioxide- which just disappear up the stack.</p>
<p>The value of human poop for fertilizer is substantial, to be sure.  Processing it to remove disease threats requires vigilance, though.  The THWASPCO basically puts disease organisms into a dead-end world, where most will just disappear, die, and- compost.  A few things might survive- bacterial spores can be nearly indestructible- that aspect is untested.  Since we never shovel it out, though- it&#8217;s a moot question.</p>
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		<title>By: Freddie Freeloader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddie Freeloader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im experimenting the growing of lambs ear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stachys_byzantina) for TP.
Its a perennial that is supposed to be very robust and it feels as soft as Charmin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im experimenting the growing of lambs ear (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stachys_byzantina" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stachys_byzantina</a>) for TP.<br />
Its a perennial that is supposed to be very robust and it feels as soft as Charmin.</p>
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