Comments on: That Sinking Feeling…Again http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/ Finding the keys to the future…and trying not to lose them in the mess. Thu, 24 May 2012 02:38:00 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Harrison Fulton http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/comment-page-1/#comment-8280 Harrison Fulton Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:31:24 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/#comment-8280 2di02ynpmmj6xqtx 2di02ynpmmj6xqtx

]]> By: Lisa Z http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/comment-page-1/#comment-8279 Lisa Z Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:16:46 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/#comment-8279 For some reason my comment didn't go through, maybe because it had a link in it? Anyways, I'm having a REAL sinking feeling because of the actions of police here in Minnesota right now during the Republican National Convention. Go to my blog for the latest I've heard about--the impounding of the Permibus, a family bus touring around teaching Permaculture skills. This is outrageous! Lisa in MN For some reason my comment didn’t go through, maybe because it had a link in it?

Anyways, I’m having a REAL sinking feeling because of the actions of police here in Minnesota right now during the Republican National Convention. Go to my blog for the latest I’ve heard about–the impounding of the Permibus, a family bus touring around teaching Permaculture skills. This is outrageous!

Lisa in MN

]]> By: Kate http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/comment-page-1/#comment-8278 Kate Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:40:02 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/#comment-8278 Sharon, to be honest I can't focus or plan for anything long-term until I know the outcome of this election. So much depends upon the direction this country will take and I'm terrified McCain might pull one out- or at least be close enough for "election irregularities" like Ohio and Florida. This really matters. Competence or delusion- each will have profound effects on how we take the slide. Plus, I don't need a side of religious fanaticism with my Peak Oil. (On a side note, I tried to leave a comment on Hen and Harvest, noting that an article cited in "Everything's fine, Keep Eating" is not current, but from 1981. The comment said it was in moderation, but then disappeared. Here's the info: U.S. ACTS TO SHRINK SCHOOL LUNCH SIZE IN ECONOMY MOVE By ROBERT PEAR, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES Published: September 5, 1981) Sharon, to be honest I can’t focus or plan for anything long-term until I know the outcome of this election. So much depends upon the direction this country will take and I’m terrified McCain might pull one out- or at least be close enough for “election irregularities” like Ohio and Florida.

This really matters. Competence or delusion- each will have profound effects on how we take the slide. Plus, I don’t need a side of religious fanaticism with my Peak Oil.

(On a side note, I tried to leave a comment on Hen and Harvest, noting that an article cited in “Everything’s fine, Keep Eating” is not current, but from 1981. The comment said it was in moderation, but then disappeared. Here’s the info: U.S. ACTS TO SHRINK SCHOOL LUNCH SIZE IN ECONOMY MOVE

By ROBERT PEAR, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: September 5, 1981)

]]> By: Rosa http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/comment-page-1/#comment-8277 Rosa Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:05:56 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/#comment-8277 I turned on the radio this afternoon to find out who else had been raided/arrested, and got to hear two meteorologists and a forester answer climate change and weather questions at the Minnesota State Fair. They were firmly in the "we can't say for sure if it's caused by humans" camp but also very, very firm that it's real. Repeating things like "we have 100 years of data for this area so we can see a trend" and "We haven't had growing seasons shorter than 90 days, which were historically normal, in northern Minnesota in the last 30 years." I think people are coming around...whether they will change their behavior is a different issue, but people are changing their minds about climate change. I turned on the radio this afternoon to find out who else had been raided/arrested, and got to hear two meteorologists and a forester answer climate change and weather questions at the Minnesota State Fair.

They were firmly in the “we can’t say for sure if it’s caused by humans” camp but also very, very firm that it’s real. Repeating things like “we have 100 years of data for this area so we can see a trend” and “We haven’t had growing seasons shorter than 90 days, which were historically normal, in northern Minnesota in the last 30 years.”

I think people are coming around…whether they will change their behavior is a different issue, but people are changing their minds about climate change.

]]> By: Tara http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/comment-page-1/#comment-8276 Tara Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:34:24 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/#comment-8276 Squrrl, as someone else said, how you can help will depend on where you are. After Katrina my husband and I spent two days at our local Salvation Army shelter - we took a whole carload of food, toiletries and supplies and volunteered our time for two days. We are, however, right next door in Texas so there were many, many people arriving there from NOLA. We have personal ties to that area and we've found the folks living there to be some of the warmest, kindest and most determined we've ever met. It will devastate us to see the same thing happen to them again, so soon. Incidentally, I can personally state that Katrina was the defining moment when I realized that in the face of disaster, NO HELP WILL BE COMING, and we'd damn well better be able to take care of ourselves. :( Squrrl, as someone else said, how you can help will depend on where you are. After Katrina my husband and I spent two days at our local Salvation Army shelter – we took a whole carload of food, toiletries and supplies and volunteered our time for two days. We are, however, right next door in Texas so there were many, many people arriving there from NOLA.

We have personal ties to that area and we’ve found the folks living there to be some of the warmest, kindest and most determined we’ve ever met. It will devastate us to see the same thing happen to them again, so soon.

Incidentally, I can personally state that Katrina was the defining moment when I realized that in the face of disaster, NO HELP WILL BE COMING, and we’d damn well better be able to take care of ourselves. :(

]]> By: Alan http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/comment-page-1/#comment-8275 Alan Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:57:41 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/#comment-8275 Not to throw gasoline on the fire, but most of our thoughts and preparations seem based on just that __one__ terrible event. What would it mean to this country if, say, a large earthquake were to strike the San Andreas, or the New Madrid Faults while the Gulf Coast is being drowned by a gigantic hurricane? Or terrorists were to choose an approaching hurricane as their moment to strike? Nothing says that disasters come in singles separated by months or years for us to recover. Not to throw gasoline on the fire, but most of our thoughts and preparations seem based on just that __one__ terrible event.

What would it mean to this country if, say, a large earthquake were to strike the San Andreas, or the New Madrid Faults while the Gulf Coast is being drowned by a gigantic hurricane?

Or terrorists were to choose an approaching hurricane as their moment to strike?

Nothing says that disasters come in singles separated by months or years for us to recover.

]]> By: Leila Abu-Saba http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/comment-page-1/#comment-8274 Leila Abu-Saba Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:37:10 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/#comment-8274 Oh p.s. and the Kos comments said food supplies were already in doubt. I reminded people not in harm's way that now is the time to stock up on supplies, emergency kit etc. Don't wait until a hurricane/earthquake/snowstorm to start building up your pantry and equipment. Thanks to Sharon for her continuous lobbying and instruction in this area. Oh p.s. and the Kos comments said food supplies were already in doubt. I reminded people not in harm’s way that now is the time to stock up on supplies, emergency kit etc. Don’t wait until a hurricane/earthquake/snowstorm to start building up your pantry and equipment. Thanks to Sharon for her continuous lobbying and instruction in this area.

]]> By: Leila Abu-Saba http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/comment-page-1/#comment-8273 Leila Abu-Saba Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:35:16 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/#comment-8273 Daily Kos is running a series of diaries on Gustav including information for people needing resources; they will be posting how to help as info comes in. At Daily Kos you look for the "mother ship" diary on the right side, and it will direct you to the current "child" diary with continuous updates. Don't know if that's helpful for those of you wanting to contribute, but I hope so. Daily Kos is running a series of diaries on Gustav including information for people needing resources; they will be posting how to help as info comes in. At Daily Kos you look for the “mother ship” diary on the right side, and it will direct you to the current “child” diary with continuous updates.

Don’t know if that’s helpful for those of you wanting to contribute, but I hope so.

]]> By: Heather Gray http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/comment-page-1/#comment-8272 Heather Gray Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:59:40 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/#comment-8272 Squrrl, don't know if this helps or not, but I did a google for "how to help with gustav" and got some hits. But they were for specific companies, groups, or states, nothing national. Still, if you're in a state that's kind of close to there (or at least as close as California is -- one of the search results...), you could try "gustav" plus your state. I also did a search for "gustav fema" but that didn't get a lot of useful hits. "red cross" might be a good search, or you might contact whatever local outreach/charity/emergency organizations are in your area and see what they're doing in response to Gustav. Good luck! Squrrl, don’t know if this helps or not, but I did a google for “how to help with gustav” and got some hits. But they were for specific companies, groups, or states, nothing national. Still, if you’re in a state that’s kind of close to there (or at least as close as California is — one of the search results…), you could try “gustav” plus your state.

I also did a search for “gustav fema” but that didn’t get a lot of useful hits. “red cross” might be a good search, or you might contact whatever local outreach/charity/emergency organizations are in your area and see what they’re doing in response to Gustav.

Good luck!

]]> By: Shamba http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/comment-page-1/#comment-8271 Shamba Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:21:35 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/08/31/that-sinking-feelingagain/#comment-8271 My prayers and best thoughts for all the gulf Coast humans and other creatures in the path of Gustav. I wonder what kindn of a punch this gives to american society and economy in the aftermath of Gustav? Not much, I hope, but it's got to be a "little" more down the economic scale since the US economy is much weaker than it was before Katrina. We won't know that till we see the other side of Gustav .... cheers, shamba My prayers and best thoughts for all the gulf Coast humans and other creatures in the path of Gustav.

I wonder what kindn of a punch this gives to american society and economy in the aftermath of Gustav? Not much, I hope, but it’s got to be a “little” more down the economic scale since the US economy is much weaker than it was before Katrina. We won’t know that till we see the other side of Gustav ….

cheers,
shamba

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