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		<title>By: yfeaiwj35</title>
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		<title>By: relational modeling</title>
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		<dc:creator>relational modeling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 00:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm is anyone else encountering problems with the pictures on this blog loading? I&#039;m trying to find out if its a problem on my end or if it&#039;s the blog. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.</description>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/10/05/ok-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-36443</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to make a clean sweep of both the House and Senate and start with new people. Many of the current politicians were on watch while our country was being destroyed. It&#039;s time to clean house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to make a clean sweep of both the House and Senate and start with new people. Many of the current politicians were on watch while our country was being destroyed. It&#8217;s time to clean house.</p>
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		<title>By: Crunchy Reading &#171; Stony Creek Digest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crunchy Reading &#171; Stony Creek Digest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/10/05/ok-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-9320</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, that&#039;s http://www.tinyurl.com/consumptiongospel , without the comma. -Noah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that&#8217;s <a href="http://www.tinyurl.com/consumptiongospel" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinyurl.com/consumptiongospel</a> , without the comma. -Noah</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/10/05/ok-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-9319</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.

If anyone needs more grist, visit http://tinyurl.com/consumptiongospel, an article published in Orion magazine by Jeffrey Kaplan. It could start a riot for frugality, if not austerity.

For anyone interested in a deconstruction of the corporate (Wall Street) role in government, you could visit poclad.org (Program on Corporations, Law, and Democracy).

For more general information, there&#039;s always thecorporation.org. Their list of links is useful for further exploration.

Myself, I am still trying to figure out what the implications are of an economic downturn over the next two years. Economic downturns are not a requirement of a poorly-lived life, but economic upswings could create mine. Business hiring could slow, consumer discretionary spending could decrease, but consumerism is not being discouraged at all. Just spending is being discouraged. I could be OK without a downturn making me too poor to pay for rent and food, but that will not happen anyway. Instead, this time of relative poverty could revamp my consumerism ahead of when my earning power increases. Yikes!

Increasing my productivity to reduce my work-hours forces me to reduce my consumption because I make less, but that is exactly what I would rather do. Hopefully this economic downturn, slight as it might be, will highlight a path to happiness that doesn&#039;t require me to overwork and overspend for a sense of artificial ease. I am already too tired, and I barely earn a living, and I am not choking on my bad credit yet, even if the economy is choking on it.

-Noah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.</p>
<p>If anyone needs more grist, visit <a href="http://tinyurl.com/consumptiongospel" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/consumptiongospel</a>, an article published in Orion magazine by Jeffrey Kaplan. It could start a riot for frugality, if not austerity.</p>
<p>For anyone interested in a deconstruction of the corporate (Wall Street) role in government, you could visit poclad.org (Program on Corporations, Law, and Democracy).</p>
<p>For more general information, there&#8217;s always thecorporation.org. Their list of links is useful for further exploration.</p>
<p>Myself, I am still trying to figure out what the implications are of an economic downturn over the next two years. Economic downturns are not a requirement of a poorly-lived life, but economic upswings could create mine. Business hiring could slow, consumer discretionary spending could decrease, but consumerism is not being discouraged at all. Just spending is being discouraged. I could be OK without a downturn making me too poor to pay for rent and food, but that will not happen anyway. Instead, this time of relative poverty could revamp my consumerism ahead of when my earning power increases. Yikes!</p>
<p>Increasing my productivity to reduce my work-hours forces me to reduce my consumption because I make less, but that is exactly what I would rather do. Hopefully this economic downturn, slight as it might be, will highlight a path to happiness that doesn&#8217;t require me to overwork and overspend for a sense of artificial ease. I am already too tired, and I barely earn a living, and I am not choking on my bad credit yet, even if the economy is choking on it.</p>
<p>-Noah</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came to this site this evening for some warmth &amp; consolation, &amp; once more Sharon &amp; her correspondents have come through.  But about the bailout/heist, &amp; what now, if you have any time &amp; energy for politics apart from planning for community &amp; survival, I have two suggestions:  First, 171 Members of Congress &amp; 24 Senators voted against this Wall Street giveaway.  It would be useful to identify &amp; thank them, esp. if one or more of them represents you, &amp; possibly -- through a letter to the editor, whatever form of public expression you can manage -- to keep an eye on the spin, &amp; facilitate the right lessons being drawn when &amp; as (as seems already to be happening) the futility of this nominally $700 B. scam becomes apparent.  I&#039;m happy to say my own Congressman, Peter DeFazio, not only voted NO twice but during the week introduced alternative legislation (incl. one bill titled the No BAILOUTS Act) that might actually have helped alleviate the crisis; see DeFazio&#039;s website for details if you&#039;re interested.  Also, for more detailed critiques &amp; analysis of where this leaves us &amp; where we&#039;re going in terms of the formal economy, there has been good material almost daily for some time now on the CounterPunch website; esp. articles by Michael Hudson, Mike Whitney, &amp; Pam Martens, that you can find by googling on the site, &amp; others you can just browse for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to this site this evening for some warmth &amp; consolation, &amp; once more Sharon &amp; her correspondents have come through.  But about the bailout/heist, &amp; what now, if you have any time &amp; energy for politics apart from planning for community &amp; survival, I have two suggestions:  First, 171 Members of Congress &amp; 24 Senators voted against this Wall Street giveaway.  It would be useful to identify &amp; thank them, esp. if one or more of them represents you, &amp; possibly &#8212; through a letter to the editor, whatever form of public expression you can manage &#8212; to keep an eye on the spin, &amp; facilitate the right lessons being drawn when &amp; as (as seems already to be happening) the futility of this nominally $700 B. scam becomes apparent.  I&#8217;m happy to say my own Congressman, Peter DeFazio, not only voted NO twice but during the week introduced alternative legislation (incl. one bill titled the No BAILOUTS Act) that might actually have helped alleviate the crisis; see DeFazio&#8217;s website for details if you&#8217;re interested.  Also, for more detailed critiques &amp; analysis of where this leaves us &amp; where we&#8217;re going in terms of the formal economy, there has been good material almost daily for some time now on the CounterPunch website; esp. articles by Michael Hudson, Mike Whitney, &amp; Pam Martens, that you can find by googling on the site, &amp; others you can just browse for.</p>
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		<title>By: MEA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MEA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly don&#039;t want to put too postitive a spin on what I&#039;m about to write. A situtation in which some 1,117,000 died was hardly one which had a happy outcome. And obviously, had relief not come, there would have been no survivors.

What the heck is MEA rambling about?

Leningrad: State of Siege by Michael Jones -- my latest bedtime reading.

So far, I&#039;ve take away three things which seem germain to my reaction to and action regarding PO and the general mess that surrounds us now.

1) I have stored an obseen amount of food -- frankly, the amount of food my household of four comsumes in a week seems unreal -- comared to what most people would have consumed in the entire 874 days.

2) People did better (by and large) if they banded together. Even if they didn&#039;t surive, diaries suggest they found life less unbearable than those who didn&#039;t.

3) Extreme times brings out extraordinary actions of courage, horror and personal choice. I&#039;m not about to judge what anyone else did, but being aware of what other people did (which since I&#039;m human, too, are all things for good and ill that I could do) gives me somethings to apsire to and others to try to avoid.

4) Even in the hardest times, most people need to be able to do things to help others and to feed their souls (I&#039;m using the word here only to mean that part of us that responds to things of beauty).

There are, sadly, lots of times in history that teach us these lesson. The siege seems to resonate with me becuase once the storehouses were bombed and it was clear no relieve was coming, people could see what was ahead just as clearly as we can see it now. Actually, in someways they could see it more clearly becuase there weren&#039;t that many options beyond freeze and starve, were as we don&#039;t know excatly how things will playout over the next few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly don&#8217;t want to put too postitive a spin on what I&#8217;m about to write. A situtation in which some 1,117,000 died was hardly one which had a happy outcome. And obviously, had relief not come, there would have been no survivors.</p>
<p>What the heck is MEA rambling about?</p>
<p>Leningrad: State of Siege by Michael Jones &#8212; my latest bedtime reading.</p>
<p>So far, I&#8217;ve take away three things which seem germain to my reaction to and action regarding PO and the general mess that surrounds us now.</p>
<p>1) I have stored an obseen amount of food &#8212; frankly, the amount of food my household of four comsumes in a week seems unreal &#8212; comared to what most people would have consumed in the entire 874 days.</p>
<p>2) People did better (by and large) if they banded together. Even if they didn&#8217;t surive, diaries suggest they found life less unbearable than those who didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>3) Extreme times brings out extraordinary actions of courage, horror and personal choice. I&#8217;m not about to judge what anyone else did, but being aware of what other people did (which since I&#8217;m human, too, are all things for good and ill that I could do) gives me somethings to apsire to and others to try to avoid.</p>
<p>4) Even in the hardest times, most people need to be able to do things to help others and to feed their souls (I&#8217;m using the word here only to mean that part of us that responds to things of beauty).</p>
<p>There are, sadly, lots of times in history that teach us these lesson. The siege seems to resonate with me becuase once the storehouses were bombed and it was clear no relieve was coming, people could see what was ahead just as clearly as we can see it now. Actually, in someways they could see it more clearly becuase there weren&#8217;t that many options beyond freeze and starve, were as we don&#8217;t know excatly how things will playout over the next few months.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things in this country seem to get scarier by the minute.  We&#039;re trying do our small part and help by working on local food systems through our community, church and our family.  (something I never considered prior to finding your blog months ago) Yesterday I found out we have a pear tree on the church property.  I&#039;ve been actively involved with our church for over 7 years and I never knew.  One of the deacons told me they pears often go to waste, so I&#039;m hoping to pick some on Wednesday and Sunday to pass out at church.  My husband and I are the volunteer youth ministers and we hope to get the kids involved as a way to give back to the church and community.   I would like to start a garden project at our church in the spring also.  We have a large plot and it just gets mowed.  I look forward to planting beans, potatoes, onions, and few other basics that store well.  We can give them away as we harvest or keep them in the food pantry until the need arises.  I&#039;ll be working with the town community group to start a farmer&#039;s market next year.  It&#039;s encouraging news in our small town of less than 400 people.

My husband and I are doing what we can as family using the skills we have.  We shared the harvest from our garden with family and are saving seeds to share for the spring planting.  Each week my husband repairs one thing at my folks&#039; home to help keep things running along (usually it&#039;s more efficient and uses less energy).  This summer it&#039;s been the washer, dryer, well pump, and old electrical outlets.  All of his work has cut their electric bill in half.  Currently they will be unable to afford heat for the winter and we&#039;re trying to find a solution.  Buying new, or even used, is out of the question for them since my father is unemployed.  If things continue to progress along the same course, they may end up living with us before long.

Thanks again for the encouragement.  Having a course of action makes us feel much better than sitting around wringing our hands.  :)

Jill in Michigan (the Lower Peninsula)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things in this country seem to get scarier by the minute.  We&#8217;re trying do our small part and help by working on local food systems through our community, church and our family.  (something I never considered prior to finding your blog months ago) Yesterday I found out we have a pear tree on the church property.  I&#8217;ve been actively involved with our church for over 7 years and I never knew.  One of the deacons told me they pears often go to waste, so I&#8217;m hoping to pick some on Wednesday and Sunday to pass out at church.  My husband and I are the volunteer youth ministers and we hope to get the kids involved as a way to give back to the church and community.   I would like to start a garden project at our church in the spring also.  We have a large plot and it just gets mowed.  I look forward to planting beans, potatoes, onions, and few other basics that store well.  We can give them away as we harvest or keep them in the food pantry until the need arises.  I&#8217;ll be working with the town community group to start a farmer&#8217;s market next year.  It&#8217;s encouraging news in our small town of less than 400 people.</p>
<p>My husband and I are doing what we can as family using the skills we have.  We shared the harvest from our garden with family and are saving seeds to share for the spring planting.  Each week my husband repairs one thing at my folks&#8217; home to help keep things running along (usually it&#8217;s more efficient and uses less energy).  This summer it&#8217;s been the washer, dryer, well pump, and old electrical outlets.  All of his work has cut their electric bill in half.  Currently they will be unable to afford heat for the winter and we&#8217;re trying to find a solution.  Buying new, or even used, is out of the question for them since my father is unemployed.  If things continue to progress along the same course, they may end up living with us before long.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the encouragement.  Having a course of action makes us feel much better than sitting around wringing our hands.  <img src='http://sharonastyk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jill in Michigan (the Lower Peninsula)</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel M.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharon, I really appreciate this post.  I am inspired by your call to generosity of heart, purse and pantry even in hard times (whether they are now or soon to come).  A life lived solely for self falls completely short of what true riches are.  On top of all of us thinking about how we can prepare for hard times and make provisions for our own families, we absolutely need to also be thinking about how we can equip ourselves to assist others in need and to take positive action in our churches, communities, etc. for the greater good.  There really is strength in numbers and one heart warming aspect of all this, is we may see our very autonomous society get back to a more community/familial based way of life where people truly look out for each other and whose minds, resources and even hearts become more connected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon, I really appreciate this post.  I am inspired by your call to generosity of heart, purse and pantry even in hard times (whether they are now or soon to come).  A life lived solely for self falls completely short of what true riches are.  On top of all of us thinking about how we can prepare for hard times and make provisions for our own families, we absolutely need to also be thinking about how we can equip ourselves to assist others in need and to take positive action in our churches, communities, etc. for the greater good.  There really is strength in numbers and one heart warming aspect of all this, is we may see our very autonomous society get back to a more community/familial based way of life where people truly look out for each other and whose minds, resources and even hearts become more connected.</p>
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