Comments on: Patriotism

By: Friday Favorites :: 11/7/08 Edition | Two Frog Home

Friday Favorites :: 11/7/08 Edition | Two Frog Home — Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:53:01 +0000

[...] Is it the person / people or the is it the circumstances that make us great? [...]

By: Curtis Barnes

Curtis Barnes — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:32:36 +0000

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By: Auntiegrav

Auntiegrav — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:34:46 +0000

I live among a vast unrepentant racist colony of people and family. For many reasons, the people I have run into have been bitter and angry about the election. I respond to them by telling them to remember that no matter how someone voted, they voted for a better future. Then I remind them that there is no such thing as “trickle-down” economics, only “evaporating-up wealth”, which we all provide through the activities we engage in. I tell them that it is up to us as people and neighbors to make the things happen which we want to happen. The government needs us, We Don’t Need Them. (See D.V. Carpenter’s essay http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Nov05/Carpenter1102.htm )

You said “we have yet to see what kind of people Americans will turn out to be.” (paraphrased)

Exactly. Will we continue the petty bickering over who gets to keep wasting our planet? I don’t think so. Those who are doing the most damage are realizing that they can’t afford it now because they can’t get a loan.

Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster for the coming Depression. It might be the only thing that can save our planet.

P.S. Don’t worry about the handiness too much. I can do anything, but it does me no good if my starving neighbors destroy it all. Just keep worrying about food, and the handy people will come calling and trading.

By: Robert Roth

Robert Roth — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:37:56 +0000

I think I agree with you completely about Obama, except that I would add what kind of president he becomes isn’t all about the man, or even the circumstances, but partly about whether the millions who elected him can evolve into a movement to bring out the best in him. FDR didn’t arise out of himself, or even the Depression, but out of the pressure from strong movements including labor, and pressure toward fundamental reform of capitalism.

As for patriotism, I’d like to suggest William Blum’s Anti-Empire Report for July 7, 2008. It was posted on ZSpace. Blum has a website at http://www.killinghope.org/ but I can’t find the patriotism essay there. If you’re interested please email me and I’ll send it as an attachment to an email.

By: Loretta M.

Loretta M. — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:01:37 +0000

Dream on, what a disaster for our nation!

By: clew

clew — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:40:52 +0000

I don’t think I’ve seen this here, but it reminded me of you:

Serve Your Country Food… the Astyk-ism would be ‘Serve Your Country Dinner’, maybe, but close enough!

By: John P

John P — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:17:07 +0000

First time reader and poster. Completely agree with your observation that great presidents became so by rising to the challenge that was thrust upon them. I like even better your suggestion that Providence placed these men at the appropriate times in our history.

Now the part that you won’t like.

I wonder how many who voted for president-elect Obama did so to get a slice of the “[coast] on cheap energy and plenty of wealth” largesse.

Moreover, Lincoln’s deep faith shines through his speech, and that faith in G-d (spelled in deference to our hostess’s sensiblities) sustained him and guided him through his herculean task. Mr. Obama is not cut of that cloth, so what will sustain him? May that same G-d have mercy on us all.

By: Micheal

Micheal — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:08:49 +0000

In lieu of evidence, there is always faith.

There is real hope in selecting the correct escape route.

May You Be Among The Survivors

~micheal~

By: Gina

Gina — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:07:29 +0000

I don’t know if this will help or not those who don’t share the same hope as some of us are feeling, but maybe you could look beyond who the elected person is and whether he is a mortal man or not and look instead at the hope of “the people”. In 2004, I had discovered blogs by then and I read the hope and fear of a nation of bloggers when Kerry/Bush stepped to the podium. People were quite vocal about not wanting Bush again (myself included), but little was really said about Kerry.

This time around, instead of heart-numbing depression, we have a large population of hopeful people. That has to mean something whether you believe in Obama or not. Personally, I have a lot of trouble with Biden (he is far too conservative for me), but I feel the hope in people who are seeking a change. It’s not that there may be change (too early to predict that), but the fact the US population (and also abroad) has smiled again after an election has to mean something! It won’t save the world, but it feel good again to have a little hope.

By: Hummingbird

Hummingbird — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:38:18 +0000

Wanna

Bush did not “win” a second term (or even the first) because the people voted for him. The elections were STOLEN as has been well documented in Ohio and Florida.

This election was not stolen either because the numbers for Obama were too overwhelming or because the Republicans know the financial system can’t be fixed and want the responsibility to fall on the Democrats.