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		<title>By: Shani Touch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shani Touch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 04:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great info, thanks for the post!</description>
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		<title>By: dewey</title>
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		<dc:creator>dewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if the Catholics were back to hand-copying books in monasteries, they&#039;d probably emphasize Latin more; some of the traditionalists already do.

No offense intended towards you.  Not every conservative Christian falls into the group I refer to, not by any means.  But in some places, there is undeniably a fair amount of small-town and blue-collar hostility towards &quot;eggheads&quot; and &quot;elitists&quot;, which Palin herself defined as &quot;anyone who thinks they&#039;re better than someone else&quot; (her own rhetoric contrasting the real, pro-America parts of America with my part not counting, apparently).  She represents a large constituency when she responds to scientific results she doesn&#039;t like by rejecting those fields of knowledge.  Look how many people are convinced that the whole fields of biology, climatology, and atmospheric physics are part of the Great Satanic/Librul-Socialist Conspiracy.  If we ever got the TEOTWAWKI some fantasize about, I&#039;d hate to be an honest biology teacher in Wasilla under Mayor Palin with no outside court system to rely upon for protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if the Catholics were back to hand-copying books in monasteries, they&#8217;d probably emphasize Latin more; some of the traditionalists already do.</p>
<p>No offense intended towards you.  Not every conservative Christian falls into the group I refer to, not by any means.  But in some places, there is undeniably a fair amount of small-town and blue-collar hostility towards &#8220;eggheads&#8221; and &#8220;elitists&#8221;, which Palin herself defined as &#8220;anyone who thinks they&#8217;re better than someone else&#8221; (her own rhetoric contrasting the real, pro-America parts of America with my part not counting, apparently).  She represents a large constituency when she responds to scientific results she doesn&#8217;t like by rejecting those fields of knowledge.  Look how many people are convinced that the whole fields of biology, climatology, and atmospheric physics are part of the Great Satanic/Librul-Socialist Conspiracy.  If we ever got the TEOTWAWKI some fantasize about, I&#8217;d hate to be an honest biology teacher in Wasilla under Mayor Palin with no outside court system to rely upon for protection.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catholics preach in local languages since the 1960s, not Latin.  (I&#039;m not Catholic, but grew up in a very Irish Catholic town.)  And are you sure that all the people who admire Sarah Palin are hateful toward people they view as &quot;too smart or educated?&quot;  I liked her, am educated, and keep coming back here to see what you all are saying, and I hate none of you though I disagree with several of you.  You&#039;re welcome in my lifeboat as long as you&#039;re willing to take a turn at the oars. :)  It might use up some time &#039;round the community campfire to be able to recount &quot;Bride and Predjudice&quot; in an Alabama where there is no more TV, radio, or electric light to read by.  (I&#039;m not from Alabama either, for the record my ancestors fought on the other side of the War Between the States.)  But more to the point--

I think the &quot;Benedict option&quot; is just a name for transmission of knowledge like happened in the Irish monestaries and some others during the Dark Ages.  The Irish monestaries, because they copied books feverishly, are the reason that many Greek and Roman manuscripts survived the fall of Rome.  That IS historical fact; whether it would happen again or not I doubt, since the Church is no longer the place where people go to get educated like it was in the 9th century.  That and very few churches have private printing presses anymore-- I&#039;m assuming if we have to recopy books, our laser jets won&#039;t be running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catholics preach in local languages since the 1960s, not Latin.  (I&#8217;m not Catholic, but grew up in a very Irish Catholic town.)  And are you sure that all the people who admire Sarah Palin are hateful toward people they view as &#8220;too smart or educated?&#8221;  I liked her, am educated, and keep coming back here to see what you all are saying, and I hate none of you though I disagree with several of you.  You&#8217;re welcome in my lifeboat as long as you&#8217;re willing to take a turn at the oars. <img src='http://sharonastyk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   It might use up some time &#8217;round the community campfire to be able to recount &#8220;Bride and Predjudice&#8221; in an Alabama where there is no more TV, radio, or electric light to read by.  (I&#8217;m not from Alabama either, for the record my ancestors fought on the other side of the War Between the States.)  But more to the point&#8211;</p>
<p>I think the &#8220;Benedict option&#8221; is just a name for transmission of knowledge like happened in the Irish monestaries and some others during the Dark Ages.  The Irish monestaries, because they copied books feverishly, are the reason that many Greek and Roman manuscripts survived the fall of Rome.  That IS historical fact; whether it would happen again or not I doubt, since the Church is no longer the place where people go to get educated like it was in the 9th century.  That and very few churches have private printing presses anymore&#8211; I&#8217;m assuming if we have to recopy books, our laser jets won&#8217;t be running.</p>
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		<title>By: dewey</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had gotten the impression that the &quot;Benedict option&quot; was all about good [i.e. Christian] religious people voluntarily withdrawing from a sinful secular world [i.e. avoiding all the rest of us].  Is that incorrect?  I would not bet on small religious communities preserving knowledge these days, when you look at the outright hatred the Palinite wing expresses for those who are too smart or educated.  It might not be too safe to be the guy in an Alabama &quot;lifeboat community&quot; who was trying to keep and pass on knowledge of the history of Indian cinema.  The Catholics might at least preserve Latin, for what that&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had gotten the impression that the &#8220;Benedict option&#8221; was all about good [i.e. Christian] religious people voluntarily withdrawing from a sinful secular world [i.e. avoiding all the rest of us].  Is that incorrect?  I would not bet on small religious communities preserving knowledge these days, when you look at the outright hatred the Palinite wing expresses for those who are too smart or educated.  It might not be too safe to be the guy in an Alabama &#8220;lifeboat community&#8221; who was trying to keep and pass on knowledge of the history of Indian cinema.  The Catholics might at least preserve Latin, for what that&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: KathyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>KathyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin M,

I don&#039;t know if you will come back here to read this.

I hope you are right and that people with rich stories will be prized and respected in our &quot;new world.&quot;  I come from the agricultural and environmental sciences and know that skews my perspective.  Water and food are such fundamentals and I see such a gap in our abilities, the pipeline of capable thinkers, innovations that are not just GMO and green revolution use of high inputs.

Our agriculture colleges lack students (we have almost no students working on local foods in any form) and I just happened to recieve a 4 foot high stack of graduate school applications.  The theme for these fellowships was related to &quot;sustainability.&quot;  In all those many 1,000&#039;s of pages- the words &quot;climate change&quot; appeared just a couple times.  I nearly shook with fear for our future that so many people were investing in the abstract while the foundations of food, water, environment are crumbling.

But again- I recognize that is my bias.  Why worry? The corn harvest on our farm was 180 bushels per acre.  That one field (200 acres) could feed 2,000 people (12 bushels of corn per person per year) for a year.  So what am I worried about???

But still I worry- Our food system is tenuous -- it needs oil, fertilizer, and farmers (who are gone from the landscape).  It needs people to save seeds, to butcher, to preserve food, grow orchards.

And you are right... You can study Bollywood Films (love them!) for eight years and know how to spin, plant, preserve. I just wish as many people came into Plant Pathology, Entomology, Horticulture, Agronomy, Animal Science, Soils Science, Water Resource Sciences, as come into the humanities...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin M,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you will come back here to read this.</p>
<p>I hope you are right and that people with rich stories will be prized and respected in our &#8220;new world.&#8221;  I come from the agricultural and environmental sciences and know that skews my perspective.  Water and food are such fundamentals and I see such a gap in our abilities, the pipeline of capable thinkers, innovations that are not just GMO and green revolution use of high inputs.</p>
<p>Our agriculture colleges lack students (we have almost no students working on local foods in any form) and I just happened to recieve a 4 foot high stack of graduate school applications.  The theme for these fellowships was related to &#8220;sustainability.&#8221;  In all those many 1,000&#8242;s of pages- the words &#8220;climate change&#8221; appeared just a couple times.  I nearly shook with fear for our future that so many people were investing in the abstract while the foundations of food, water, environment are crumbling.</p>
<p>But again- I recognize that is my bias.  Why worry? The corn harvest on our farm was 180 bushels per acre.  That one field (200 acres) could feed 2,000 people (12 bushels of corn per person per year) for a year.  So what am I worried about???</p>
<p>But still I worry- Our food system is tenuous &#8212; it needs oil, fertilizer, and farmers (who are gone from the landscape).  It needs people to save seeds, to butcher, to preserve food, grow orchards.</p>
<p>And you are right&#8230; You can study Bollywood Films (love them!) for eight years and know how to spin, plant, preserve. I just wish as many people came into Plant Pathology, Entomology, Horticulture, Agronomy, Animal Science, Soils Science, Water Resource Sciences, as come into the humanities&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tarynkay
I so agree with you that kids in America today are vastly better off than any humans in history.  My kids and I talk about this a lot....how even the Kings and Queens didn&#039;t have hot showers with the turn of a faucet, or antibiotics for strep throat.

The main suffering that comes with economic downturn is emotional...the stress and uncertainty of loosing a job, or being able to pay bills.  But if everything completely fell apart for my family, no job, no income....we would still have family, a roof over our heads, meals and a hot shower at the turn of a faucet.   Nobody is facing death in an economic depression.

And about having an advanced degree in something ecclectic....well, lets imagine the absolute worst....the failure of infrastrucutre/government. If we all revert to the ancient model of local economies centered around some common institution like a church, those with education will have that to offer other, to preserve the learning we have gained up to this point....Dreher calls it the Benedict option.  I don&#039;t know where he got the term, but it&#039;s a great idea for how to organize a society if the infrastructure were to crumble.  Which I don&#039;t think it will.  But always be prepared, right?

Raising Capable People and Kids Are Worth it by Barbara Colorosa both advocate building character and self esteem in children by giving them responsibility, lots of it, and like Lance said, praising them for a job well done...and conversely, letting them feel the full consequences for their mess ups....no rescuing.  It works.  It is HARD to do.  We are designed by evolution to keep our kids from suffering.  But it&#039;s how we all learn lessons we never forget.

My favorite example from Colorosa&#039;s book is about not nagging.  She says to the kid.

&quot;Son, I want you to take the garbage out before dinner.  Now what do I want?&quot;
&quot;Take the garbage out (mumbled)&quot;
&quot;When to I want it?&quot;
 &quot; Before dinner.&quot;

  So of course the kids forgets, so at dinner time, you set the table without a place or food for him.  He comes to dinner....and Whoa!  No dinner.  You don&#039;t even need to say a word....not one nag.....kids takes out the trash and then he eats.  It really works.  And her book is funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tarynkay<br />
I so agree with you that kids in America today are vastly better off than any humans in history.  My kids and I talk about this a lot&#8230;.how even the Kings and Queens didn&#8217;t have hot showers with the turn of a faucet, or antibiotics for strep throat.</p>
<p>The main suffering that comes with economic downturn is emotional&#8230;the stress and uncertainty of loosing a job, or being able to pay bills.  But if everything completely fell apart for my family, no job, no income&#8230;.we would still have family, a roof over our heads, meals and a hot shower at the turn of a faucet.   Nobody is facing death in an economic depression.</p>
<p>And about having an advanced degree in something ecclectic&#8230;.well, lets imagine the absolute worst&#8230;.the failure of infrastrucutre/government. If we all revert to the ancient model of local economies centered around some common institution like a church, those with education will have that to offer other, to preserve the learning we have gained up to this point&#8230;.Dreher calls it the Benedict option.  I don&#8217;t know where he got the term, but it&#8217;s a great idea for how to organize a society if the infrastructure were to crumble.  Which I don&#8217;t think it will.  But always be prepared, right?</p>
<p>Raising Capable People and Kids Are Worth it by Barbara Colorosa both advocate building character and self esteem in children by giving them responsibility, lots of it, and like Lance said, praising them for a job well done&#8230;and conversely, letting them feel the full consequences for their mess ups&#8230;.no rescuing.  It works.  It is HARD to do.  We are designed by evolution to keep our kids from suffering.  But it&#8217;s how we all learn lessons we never forget.</p>
<p>My favorite example from Colorosa&#8217;s book is about not nagging.  She says to the kid.</p>
<p>&#8220;Son, I want you to take the garbage out before dinner.  Now what do I want?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Take the garbage out (mumbled)&#8221;<br />
&#8220;When to I want it?&#8221;<br />
 &#8221; Before dinner.&#8221;</p>
<p>  So of course the kids forgets, so at dinner time, you set the table without a place or food for him.  He comes to dinner&#8230;.and Whoa!  No dinner.  You don&#8217;t even need to say a word&#8230;.not one nag&#8230;..kids takes out the trash and then he eats.  It really works.  And her book is funny.</p>
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		<title>By: BoysMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoysMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We tell the stories about Meme (husband&#039;s mom) growing up in the village, about my Pilgram ancestors, about my gramma on the other side coming over on the ship through Ellis Island and why her family left the Old Country.  The stories of our ancestors.  Poverty and priorities are written all through them, but not blatently.  I don&#039;t know if the kids realize that we&#039;re wealthy compared to our ancestors or not.  They don&#039;t seem particularly upset about the current economic situation, but then our personal economy isn&#039;t as bad as it used to be . . . I know things are worse for a lot of folks, but compared to six years ago things are looking pretty good around here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We tell the stories about Meme (husband&#8217;s mom) growing up in the village, about my Pilgram ancestors, about my gramma on the other side coming over on the ship through Ellis Island and why her family left the Old Country.  The stories of our ancestors.  Poverty and priorities are written all through them, but not blatently.  I don&#8217;t know if the kids realize that we&#8217;re wealthy compared to our ancestors or not.  They don&#8217;t seem particularly upset about the current economic situation, but then our personal economy isn&#8217;t as bad as it used to be . . . I know things are worse for a lot of folks, but compared to six years ago things are looking pretty good around here.</p>
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		<title>By: Maeve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The narrative of &quot;security&quot; that is shaped for you in your formative years is extremely powerful.

I was fortunate to have spent those years on a tiny farm, with gardens and fruit trees, chickens and goats, going to the mountains for wood, putting produce in the root cellar and canned goods in the pantry.

I say &quot;fortunate&quot; because the things that I and my family will likely face out of necessity, are things I already partially do, and are things which bring me a sense of solidity.

For someone else, who grew up with a different narrative of &#039;security&#039;, this sort of a life is likely going to be frightening, stressful, etc.

We can start helping kids NOW by being examples for any children we are around.  By talking of our windowsill pot of basil, or our backyard garden, or how cool you thought it was for so&amp;so to give you a recycled gift, and so forth.  Praise the little ones for fixing their stuff, rather than lamenting over a broken zipper pull or bent notebook cover.  That sort of thing.

It makes a bigger difference than people realize, than *I* realized.  Until the day when I was enforcing a &quot;room cleaning&quot; for my oldest child, and discovered they&#039;d started filching cans from the pantry to start a &quot;back up&quot; pantry.  LOL!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The narrative of &#8220;security&#8221; that is shaped for you in your formative years is extremely powerful.</p>
<p>I was fortunate to have spent those years on a tiny farm, with gardens and fruit trees, chickens and goats, going to the mountains for wood, putting produce in the root cellar and canned goods in the pantry.</p>
<p>I say &#8220;fortunate&#8221; because the things that I and my family will likely face out of necessity, are things I already partially do, and are things which bring me a sense of solidity.</p>
<p>For someone else, who grew up with a different narrative of &#8216;security&#8217;, this sort of a life is likely going to be frightening, stressful, etc.</p>
<p>We can start helping kids NOW by being examples for any children we are around.  By talking of our windowsill pot of basil, or our backyard garden, or how cool you thought it was for so&amp;so to give you a recycled gift, and so forth.  Praise the little ones for fixing their stuff, rather than lamenting over a broken zipper pull or bent notebook cover.  That sort of thing.</p>
<p>It makes a bigger difference than people realize, than *I* realized.  Until the day when I was enforcing a &#8220;room cleaning&#8221; for my oldest child, and discovered they&#8217;d started filching cans from the pantry to start a &#8220;back up&#8221; pantry.  LOL!!!</p>
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		<title>By: DEE</title>
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		<dc:creator>DEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am grateful my folks grew up in the Depression...although they both had Masters&#039; degrees and excellent jobs they were extremely frugal and we weren&#039;t spoiled. Can&#039;t remember ever going out to supper unless on our yearly vacation to see America first. My sis and I took turns making dinner,did our own laundry and had clothing allowances...if we spent it all on sweaters and had no underwear or shoes it was just too bad!!!  Money was openly discussed. Shopping was not a hobby! My mom canned fruits/veggies every summer although she surely could afford to buy them. When I shocked them and married at 18 my mom said you need to get a trade...so off to LPN school and thank God, she told me that as my job is about as recession-proof as they come
We always raised our kids to understand our financial position. They had chores that mattered...not &quot;make work&quot; as we always had cows to milk and wood to cut. But they knew they were responsible for this work and we wouldn&#039;t be following behind them doing it...it was part of being a family. Kids recognize real work that contributes to everyones welfare. This country keeps kids &quot;kids&quot; too long with their extended years in school. Some don&#039;t get out to the real world until 30 years old...and haven&#039;t a clue what to do when they get there. DEE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am grateful my folks grew up in the Depression&#8230;although they both had Masters&#8217; degrees and excellent jobs they were extremely frugal and we weren&#8217;t spoiled. Can&#8217;t remember ever going out to supper unless on our yearly vacation to see America first. My sis and I took turns making dinner,did our own laundry and had clothing allowances&#8230;if we spent it all on sweaters and had no underwear or shoes it was just too bad!!!  Money was openly discussed. Shopping was not a hobby! My mom canned fruits/veggies every summer although she surely could afford to buy them. When I shocked them and married at 18 my mom said you need to get a trade&#8230;so off to LPN school and thank God, she told me that as my job is about as recession-proof as they come<br />
We always raised our kids to understand our financial position. They had chores that mattered&#8230;not &#8220;make work&#8221; as we always had cows to milk and wood to cut. But they knew they were responsible for this work and we wouldn&#8217;t be following behind them doing it&#8230;it was part of being a family. Kids recognize real work that contributes to everyones welfare. This country keeps kids &#8220;kids&#8221; too long with their extended years in school. Some don&#8217;t get out to the real world until 30 years old&#8230;and haven&#8217;t a clue what to do when they get there. DEE</p>
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		<title>By: tarynkay</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarynkay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading here for a very long time, but this is the first time I have commented. So I should say, I love your writing and have found it tremendously helpful. Thank you for all of your work on this, Sharon.
I do not want to make light of the crushing circumstances of many, many American families. I am certain that there is a lot of real poverty in this country and I do not want to demean that at all. There are children who go to bed hungry (which is obscene and we should help them) but I don&#039;t think that most American children are going to bed hungry. (I love, by the way, that part of your economic discussion with your children is the increased need to donate to the community.)
But I have noticed that I have never spoken to anyone who considered himself rich. Which is crazy, right? This is an incredibly rich country- as demonstrated by the boy in the article who wanted to sell his ipod to help the family. Our standard of living is so very high here that even if we cut it in half, we are still better off than most of the world.
There is a lot of debate here about how much truth to tell our children, and I appreciate that. But I think that if we are to tell the Truth, we have to tell both sides of it. As in, yes, we have less money now. But we are still so wealthy- we&#039;re not talking about cutting back to one meal a day (yet), we&#039;re talking about cutting back on Christmas presents. That is amazing. Praise G-d that this is so. Pancake night can be depressing or it can be a treat. This depends a lot on our own adult perceptions, that is, feeling wealthy even though we don&#039;t have as much as we used to.
It is just as important to teach children to be happy about pancakes as it is to teach them to cook pancakes. I&#039;m not talking about faking it. I&#039;m talking about actually learning to be happy with what we have in all true real life and then teaching our kids to do the same.
As for letting children help, I think that this is essential. I agree with Lance- we&#039;re not raising children, we&#039;re raising adults. Isn&#039;t it weird that we&#039;re expected to have these nonproductive houseguests for 18 years or so? It&#039;s like vacations- 50 weeks of misery in exchange for 2 weeks of joy. The idea is that adult life is so miserable that we have to shield children from it for as long as possible. I am not saying that we should revoke the child labor laws or anything. But letting children contribute is a powerful thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading here for a very long time, but this is the first time I have commented. So I should say, I love your writing and have found it tremendously helpful. Thank you for all of your work on this, Sharon.<br />
I do not want to make light of the crushing circumstances of many, many American families. I am certain that there is a lot of real poverty in this country and I do not want to demean that at all. There are children who go to bed hungry (which is obscene and we should help them) but I don&#8217;t think that most American children are going to bed hungry. (I love, by the way, that part of your economic discussion with your children is the increased need to donate to the community.)<br />
But I have noticed that I have never spoken to anyone who considered himself rich. Which is crazy, right? This is an incredibly rich country- as demonstrated by the boy in the article who wanted to sell his ipod to help the family. Our standard of living is so very high here that even if we cut it in half, we are still better off than most of the world.<br />
There is a lot of debate here about how much truth to tell our children, and I appreciate that. But I think that if we are to tell the Truth, we have to tell both sides of it. As in, yes, we have less money now. But we are still so wealthy- we&#8217;re not talking about cutting back to one meal a day (yet), we&#8217;re talking about cutting back on Christmas presents. That is amazing. Praise G-d that this is so. Pancake night can be depressing or it can be a treat. This depends a lot on our own adult perceptions, that is, feeling wealthy even though we don&#8217;t have as much as we used to.<br />
It is just as important to teach children to be happy about pancakes as it is to teach them to cook pancakes. I&#8217;m not talking about faking it. I&#8217;m talking about actually learning to be happy with what we have in all true real life and then teaching our kids to do the same.<br />
As for letting children help, I think that this is essential. I agree with Lance- we&#8217;re not raising children, we&#8217;re raising adults. Isn&#8217;t it weird that we&#8217;re expected to have these nonproductive houseguests for 18 years or so? It&#8217;s like vacations- 50 weeks of misery in exchange for 2 weeks of joy. The idea is that adult life is so miserable that we have to shield children from it for as long as possible. I am not saying that we should revoke the child labor laws or anything. But letting children contribute is a powerful thing.</p>
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