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	<description>Finding the keys to the future…and trying not to lose them in the mess.</description>
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		<title>By: Christel Stolte</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/11/19/stuff/comment-page-2/#comment-74593</link>
		<dc:creator>Christel Stolte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoah this blog is great i love reading your articles. Keep up the good work! You know, a lot of people are looking around for this info, you could aid them greatly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoah this blog is great i love reading your articles. Keep up the good work! You know, a lot of people are looking around for this info, you could aid them greatly.</p>
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		<title>By: Escorts Madrid</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/11/19/stuff/comment-page-2/#comment-37154</link>
		<dc:creator>Escorts Madrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 11:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is one of the most significant info for me. And i&#039;m glad reading your article. But should remark on few general things, The website style is ideal, the articles is really nice : D. Good job, cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is one of the most significant info for me. And i&#8217;m glad reading your article. But should remark on few general things, The website style is ideal, the articles is really nice : D. Good job, cheers</p>
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		<title>By: ethnic drums</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/11/19/stuff/comment-page-2/#comment-26952</link>
		<dc:creator>ethnic drums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please tell me it labored appropriate? I dont wish to sumit it once more if i will not need to! Either the website glitced out or i am an idiot, the 2nd choice doesnt surprise me lol. thanks for a great web site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tell me it labored appropriate? I dont wish to sumit it once more if i will not need to! Either the website glitced out or i am an idiot, the 2nd choice doesnt surprise me lol. thanks for a great web site!</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/11/19/stuff/comment-page-2/#comment-10854</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharon, I&#039;ve been thinking about this ever since you posted it, and it&#039;s a problem I wrestle with myself a lot - I&#039;m thinking this is an insoluble problem, like Leila said, because your mindset doesn&#039;t match the culture.

A lot of the people who get diagnosed as having hoarding disorders are people who lived through the Depression and can&#039;t adjust to the constant stream of incoming stuff. You&#039;re living with your head in a future Depression, pretty much - but your community is still in the cheap-energy present.

If you really want to declutter, but feel that a lot of what you have is going to be necessary and irreplaceable in the future, maybe the answer is to organize a community group (library, tool library, skill-sharing workshop space) to take on those functions so you don&#039;t have to do them yourself? For a while we had a Pagan library here, and what it did was take many, many unread books from people&#039;s living rooms and put them into another room where people who hadn&#039;t read them had access to them. Ditto the community bike-fixing shop - it&#039;s everybody&#039;s heap of bike parts in one place, where the chances of someone actually needing the part are greater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon, I&#8217;ve been thinking about this ever since you posted it, and it&#8217;s a problem I wrestle with myself a lot &#8211; I&#8217;m thinking this is an insoluble problem, like Leila said, because your mindset doesn&#8217;t match the culture.</p>
<p>A lot of the people who get diagnosed as having hoarding disorders are people who lived through the Depression and can&#8217;t adjust to the constant stream of incoming stuff. You&#8217;re living with your head in a future Depression, pretty much &#8211; but your community is still in the cheap-energy present.</p>
<p>If you really want to declutter, but feel that a lot of what you have is going to be necessary and irreplaceable in the future, maybe the answer is to organize a community group (library, tool library, skill-sharing workshop space) to take on those functions so you don&#8217;t have to do them yourself? For a while we had a Pagan library here, and what it did was take many, many unread books from people&#8217;s living rooms and put them into another room where people who hadn&#8217;t read them had access to them. Ditto the community bike-fixing shop &#8211; it&#8217;s everybody&#8217;s heap of bike parts in one place, where the chances of someone actually needing the part are greater.</p>
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		<title>By: teresa from hershey</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/11/19/stuff/comment-page-2/#comment-10853</link>
		<dc:creator>teresa from hershey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the amount of stuff we all have is a very clear indication of how safe, stable, and prosperous our society is.  It is pretty hard to accumulate much stuff when you are running from the cossacks with only what you can carry and the clothes on your back.  How many of us have a relative who remembers doing that? When you are constantly being burned out, flooded out, or chased out; well you sure don&#039;t acquire three complete sets of dishes each a service for 12.  Too much stuff is (unless you have a mental illness of compulsive hoarding) a problem of wealth and not of poverty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the amount of stuff we all have is a very clear indication of how safe, stable, and prosperous our society is.  It is pretty hard to accumulate much stuff when you are running from the cossacks with only what you can carry and the clothes on your back.  How many of us have a relative who remembers doing that? When you are constantly being burned out, flooded out, or chased out; well you sure don&#8217;t acquire three complete sets of dishes each a service for 12.  Too much stuff is (unless you have a mental illness of compulsive hoarding) a problem of wealth and not of poverty.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Red Hen</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/11/19/stuff/comment-page-2/#comment-10852</link>
		<dc:creator>Little Red Hen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoshana, I hear you! My mother recently mentioned that she supposed she might pass on all the baby clothing of mine she&#039;d saved as well as some toys. I have four children, the youngest of which is 2. Why didn&#039;t she think of this a decade ago?! I suppose I can save it all for MY grandchildren.

One of my grandmothers, however, has had a steady plan of giving her things away as she aged. Everything of value in her home has a little label on it, indicating who is should be given to after her death. She downsized from the home she raised her sons in to a smaller home then again to a condo after my grandfather died. She has a very neat and cozy home but not cluttered with stuff she doesn&#039;t need.

In contrast, my other grandmother is drowning in stuff. She could never move because she could never move all her stuff. My mother goes to visit once a week to help her catalog just the photo collection. She became the archive of the family history. I love my family and geneaology is interesting...but even I don&#039;t think she should have to preserve all that forever.

The balance between wanting to declutter and hanging onto something because it might be useful (really useful, like life or death useful) SOMEDAY is difficult to find. Sometimes letting go of things means you are trusting that in the future somebody will help take care of you and your needs. Hard to do--but you can&#039;t prepare for everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoshana, I hear you! My mother recently mentioned that she supposed she might pass on all the baby clothing of mine she&#8217;d saved as well as some toys. I have four children, the youngest of which is 2. Why didn&#8217;t she think of this a decade ago?! I suppose I can save it all for MY grandchildren.</p>
<p>One of my grandmothers, however, has had a steady plan of giving her things away as she aged. Everything of value in her home has a little label on it, indicating who is should be given to after her death. She downsized from the home she raised her sons in to a smaller home then again to a condo after my grandfather died. She has a very neat and cozy home but not cluttered with stuff she doesn&#8217;t need.</p>
<p>In contrast, my other grandmother is drowning in stuff. She could never move because she could never move all her stuff. My mother goes to visit once a week to help her catalog just the photo collection. She became the archive of the family history. I love my family and geneaology is interesting&#8230;but even I don&#8217;t think she should have to preserve all that forever.</p>
<p>The balance between wanting to declutter and hanging onto something because it might be useful (really useful, like life or death useful) SOMEDAY is difficult to find. Sometimes letting go of things means you are trusting that in the future somebody will help take care of you and your needs. Hard to do&#8211;but you can&#8217;t prepare for everything.</p>
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		<title>By: The Screaming Sardine</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/11/19/stuff/comment-page-2/#comment-10851</link>
		<dc:creator>The Screaming Sardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was, in many ways, fortunate in that I was forced to reduce.  In August, after seeing how bad the economy was getting, I moved from New York to North Dakota, where I already had a house paid for.  I figured there was no sense in paying an extra $2,000-3,000 a month to live in New York since it has such a high cost of living.

Plus, I was starting to struggle to make ends meet.  Because of that, I didn&#039;t have much money to ship my stuff back.  I moved to New York just a couple years before in a 24 foot U-Haul towing my overly stuffed SUV.  I moved from New York with just what I could stuff in my car and sending around 40 boxes through the mail.  While I miss a lot of things - like furniture and my washer and dryer - I have the most important thing - a house that&#039;s paid for.  I&#039;m very grateful for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was, in many ways, fortunate in that I was forced to reduce.  In August, after seeing how bad the economy was getting, I moved from New York to North Dakota, where I already had a house paid for.  I figured there was no sense in paying an extra $2,000-3,000 a month to live in New York since it has such a high cost of living.</p>
<p>Plus, I was starting to struggle to make ends meet.  Because of that, I didn&#8217;t have much money to ship my stuff back.  I moved to New York just a couple years before in a 24 foot U-Haul towing my overly stuffed SUV.  I moved from New York with just what I could stuff in my car and sending around 40 boxes through the mail.  While I miss a lot of things &#8211; like furniture and my washer and dryer &#8211; I have the most important thing &#8211; a house that&#8217;s paid for.  I&#8217;m very grateful for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/11/19/stuff/comment-page-2/#comment-10850</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I have been talking a lot about this recently. I&#039;ve had many &quot;lives&quot; that have required entirely different tools and libraries- the classical singer&#039;s tome of scores and cds, then the counseling/arts therapy grad student tome of psychology and arts, then the new mom&#039;s collection of parenting/baby books, and now, since I learned about peak oil, all sorts of preparedness/gardening/cooking, etc books.  Not to mention the storing of food and the buying of tools and massive amounts of projects.  Oh yes, and the baby stuff, which even though we&#039;re fairly minimalist, adds quite an imprint even if it&#039;s all second-hand.

But beyond all these things, the strongest &quot;living in two worlds&quot; space needed is, for us, the mental gymnastics efforts needed to reconcile living in one world while preparing for another.  How do I talk honestly to friends about my fears for my child when, for example, they&#039;re expecting their first and I don&#039;t want to scare them?  I mean, I don&#039;t _know_ that this will happen and if I proclaim I do I sure sound like a nutjob. But it&#039;s pretty isolating to feel like you can&#039;t talk to people about what&#039;s really going on in your life when they ask you, &quot;So, what&#039;s new?&quot;  Although at least we live in earthquake country, so I can get away with limiting it to saying I&#039;m doing emergency preparedness. ;P

And I mean seriously, how crazy is it to go from buying 25 lb bags of food and reading about how to compost human poo, to then going to work singing in a fancy shmancy opera house? Especially when you&#039;re getting dressed up (by dressers, no less) as a russian peasant and singing about starving.  It&#039;s just totally surreal.

And how to decide where to invest our finite time and energy- which world? do I try to expand my vocal studio, learn new music, make a website? Try to find a mft internship and work on getting my hours? Or do I buy seeds and make yogurt, learn to make recycled wool longies and how to take care of chickens?  Oy vey.  &quot;My brain hurts&quot;, as Michael Palin said...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I have been talking a lot about this recently. I&#8217;ve had many &#8220;lives&#8221; that have required entirely different tools and libraries- the classical singer&#8217;s tome of scores and cds, then the counseling/arts therapy grad student tome of psychology and arts, then the new mom&#8217;s collection of parenting/baby books, and now, since I learned about peak oil, all sorts of preparedness/gardening/cooking, etc books.  Not to mention the storing of food and the buying of tools and massive amounts of projects.  Oh yes, and the baby stuff, which even though we&#8217;re fairly minimalist, adds quite an imprint even if it&#8217;s all second-hand.</p>
<p>But beyond all these things, the strongest &#8220;living in two worlds&#8221; space needed is, for us, the mental gymnastics efforts needed to reconcile living in one world while preparing for another.  How do I talk honestly to friends about my fears for my child when, for example, they&#8217;re expecting their first and I don&#8217;t want to scare them?  I mean, I don&#8217;t _know_ that this will happen and if I proclaim I do I sure sound like a nutjob. But it&#8217;s pretty isolating to feel like you can&#8217;t talk to people about what&#8217;s really going on in your life when they ask you, &#8220;So, what&#8217;s new?&#8221;  Although at least we live in earthquake country, so I can get away with limiting it to saying I&#8217;m doing emergency preparedness. ;P</p>
<p>And I mean seriously, how crazy is it to go from buying 25 lb bags of food and reading about how to compost human poo, to then going to work singing in a fancy shmancy opera house? Especially when you&#8217;re getting dressed up (by dressers, no less) as a russian peasant and singing about starving.  It&#8217;s just totally surreal.</p>
<p>And how to decide where to invest our finite time and energy- which world? do I try to expand my vocal studio, learn new music, make a website? Try to find a mft internship and work on getting my hours? Or do I buy seeds and make yogurt, learn to make recycled wool longies and how to take care of chickens?  Oy vey.  &#8220;My brain hurts&#8221;, as Michael Palin said&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/11/19/stuff/comment-page-2/#comment-10849</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! Dewey, I ditched almost a linear foot of Japanese books - the dictionaries &amp; texts found a good home but the workbooks just got recycled.

That&#039;s another one of those ideals I just had to give up on. I have lost what little Japanese I ever had and there is absolutely zero chance I&#039;ll ever pick it back up again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Dewey, I ditched almost a linear foot of Japanese books &#8211; the dictionaries &amp; texts found a good home but the workbooks just got recycled.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s another one of those ideals I just had to give up on. I have lost what little Japanese I ever had and there is absolutely zero chance I&#8217;ll ever pick it back up again.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2008/11/19/stuff/comment-page-2/#comment-10848</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For another take on the specter of stuff, specifically how the enemy is trying to use it to prevent a withdrawal from Iraq, check out this Tom Engelhardt piece, &quot;Stuff Happens&quot;.

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175005/a_consumer_s_paradise_of_war</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For another take on the specter of stuff, specifically how the enemy is trying to use it to prevent a withdrawal from Iraq, check out this Tom Engelhardt piece, &#8220;Stuff Happens&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175005/a_consumer_s_paradise_of_war" rel="nofollow">http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175005/a_consumer_s_paradise_of_war</a></p>
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