Comments on: As the Year Turns, So Our Thoughts Turn…To Goat Sex http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/ Sharon Astyk's Ruminations on an Ambiguous Future Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:32:12 -0700 #?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sharon http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-16056 Sharon Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:57:03 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/#comment-16056 Keep them, for the most part, I think. There's a real market for very small goats which produce a lot of milk, actually, so we can probably sell as many as we raise, but we're planning on expanding our own herd some, and want to keep our female kids. If we have a really good male out of Maia and Gil-galahad we might keep him too, so it will really depend on the gender proportions. If we get all boys, well, some of them will be wethered and sold. If we get all girls, that might be more than we want. If we get a mix, we may keep most or all of them, depending on how things play out. We're looking to buy two more milking does this summer, and probably a buck. My guess is that we'll probably top out at 6 or 7 milking does, and then we'll maybe get serious about selling them. I hear they travel by airfreight pretty well - does your yard need one ;-)? Sharon Keep them, for the most part, I think. There’s a real market for very small goats which produce a lot of milk, actually, so we can probably sell as many as we raise, but we’re planning on expanding our own herd some, and want to keep our female kids. If we have a really good male out of Maia and Gil-galahad we might keep him too, so it will really depend on the gender proportions. If we get all boys, well, some of them will be wethered and sold. If we get all girls, that might be more than we want. If we get a mix, we may keep most or all of them, depending on how things play out.

We’re looking to buy two more milking does this summer, and probably a buck. My guess is that we’ll probably top out at 6 or 7 milking does, and then we’ll maybe get serious about selling them.

I hear they travel by airfreight pretty well – does your yard need one ;-) ?

Sharon

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By: Crunchy Chicken http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-16050 Crunchy Chicken Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:22:07 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/#comment-16050 Too funny. What will you do with the offspring? Too funny. What will you do with the offspring?

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By: Leslie http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-15817 Leslie Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:54:19 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/#comment-15817 We have had both rare breed cows and goats for a number of years now. Our goats are Nigerian Dwarf goats so we could actually easily house a buck. We found a buck who is an absolute sweetheart and never smells bad or does disgusting things. He was 6 months old when we brought him home last year and he set right to work breeding our does. He had obviously never done it before and didn't quite know what to do at first. My husband got some of his hilarious attempts at breeding on video here on Ramon, Nigerian Dwarf Goat Extraordinaire (Part 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHC0yftKPHU&feature=channel_page). Watching him was like watching a comedy show. He kept getting up on the wrong end. He draped over the does like he was watching TV or something. He would finally get up on them properly but then fall over backwards because they were bigger than he. We were roaring with laughter watching all of this but you know what? All three does kidded right on schedule 5 months later. Funny and effective - that is Ramon! I just thought I would mention something here from the buck's perspective ... Meanwhile we really love cows. Never want to live without at least one again. Sadly we are selling our Nigerian herd because I have finally persuaded my family that we need something more in our diet than milk. The goat pens will all be converted into veggie gardens. Leslie We have had both rare breed cows and goats for a number of years now. Our goats are Nigerian Dwarf goats so we could actually easily house a buck. We found a buck who is an absolute sweetheart and never smells bad or does disgusting things. He was 6 months old when we brought him home last year and he set right to work breeding our does. He had obviously never done it before and didn’t quite know what to do at first. My husband got some of his hilarious attempts at breeding on video here on Ramon, Nigerian Dwarf Goat Extraordinaire (Part 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHC0yftKPHU&feature=channel_page). Watching him was like watching a comedy show. He kept getting up on the wrong end. He draped over the does like he was watching TV or something. He would finally get up on them properly but then fall over backwards because they were bigger than he. We were roaring with laughter watching all of this but you know what? All three does kidded right on schedule 5 months later. Funny and effective – that is Ramon!

I just thought I would mention something here from the buck’s perspective …

Meanwhile we really love cows. Never want to live without at least one again. Sadly we are selling our Nigerian herd because I have finally persuaded my family that we need something more in our diet than milk. The goat pens will all be converted into veggie gardens.

Leslie

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By: tante2 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-15810 tante2 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:44:28 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/#comment-15810 In a moment of frustration, I found myself muttering "goat pussy". I don't think I'd ever heard that expression before. It sure has stuck and seems to apply to a lot of situations! In a moment of frustration, I found myself muttering “goat pussy”. I don’t think I’d ever heard that expression before. It sure has stuck and seems to apply to a lot of situations!

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By: deb woslum http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-15798 deb woslum Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:09:34 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/#comment-15798 Sharon, get a "buck rag". Very simple. Take a rag, rub it all over a buck's head and neck, then put it in a jar. Bring it to the does, open lid, dangle said buck rag in front of them. If they're interested, they're in heat. You can also just hang the buck rag somewhere near them (but where they can't eat it, which they might, if they're in heat), and you'll be able to see if they're in heat by proximity and interest in the rag. deb Sharon,
get a “buck rag”. Very simple. Take a rag, rub it all over a buck’s head and neck, then put it in a jar. Bring it to the does, open lid, dangle said buck rag in front of them. If they’re interested, they’re in heat.
You can also just hang the buck rag somewhere near them (but where they can’t eat it, which they might, if they’re in heat), and you’ll be able to see if they’re in heat by proximity and interest in the rag.
deb

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By: Lance http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-15796 Lance Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:58:27 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/#comment-15796 Being an easily embarrassed guy, I would likely say "goat parts." Nanny-nookie seems usable too. Anyways... For me the phrase, "goat pussy" conjured up the strong mental image of a chimerical beast of mixed feline and caprine characteristics...like a goat with a cat's head sticking out its back...or a cat-goat centaur...see what early childhood exposure to Greek mythology does to you? Being an easily embarrassed guy, I would likely say “goat parts.” Nanny-nookie seems usable too. Anyways…

For me the phrase, “goat pussy” conjured up the strong mental image of a chimerical beast of mixed feline and caprine characteristics…like a goat with a cat’s head sticking out its back…or a cat-goat centaur…see what early childhood exposure to Greek mythology does to you?

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By: KatJ http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-15795 KatJ Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:48:35 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/#comment-15795 Well, thank you for the heads up on goat breeding, Sharon. My dad raised both cows and goats, although the goats lived in a field rather farther away from the house, and we never really delved into their sex lives. We didn't milk them or anything - they were strictly there for bushhogging purposes. The cows were a different story. I've seen my dad deliver a stuck calf before (won't describe that to you!). It is making me rethink my plans to get goats this spring! And what a surprise this morning, to get on your blog thinking to see an exhortation to be prepared and finding this hilarious piece on goat sex instead. Thank you very much!! Well, thank you for the heads up on goat breeding, Sharon. My dad raised both cows and goats, although the goats lived in a field rather farther away from the house, and we never really delved into their sex lives. We didn’t milk them or anything – they were strictly there for bushhogging purposes. The cows were a different story. I’ve seen my dad deliver a stuck calf before (won’t describe that to you!). It is making me rethink my plans to get goats this spring! And what a surprise this morning, to get on your blog thinking to see an exhortation to be prepared and finding this hilarious piece on goat sex instead. Thank you very much!!

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By: Elizabeth aka heathenmom http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-15793 Elizabeth aka heathenmom Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:39:34 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/#comment-15793 Olympia -- me too! Ever since I read this at work yesterday, the phrase "goat pussy" keeps popping into my head and I canNOT stop laughing! *blush* Sharon, I do love it when you write about the day-to-day work of farming. It gives me hope for our future homesteading efforts. :) Olympia — me too! Ever since I read this at work yesterday, the phrase “goat pussy” keeps popping into my head and I canNOT stop laughing! *blush* Sharon, I do love it when you write about the day-to-day work of farming. It gives me hope for our future homesteading efforts. :)

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By: Greenpa http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-15791 Greenpa Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:21:34 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/#comment-15791 Obviously, you were asking yourself, "how do I start the blog off with a bang, for the new year?" And I confess to being of several minds regarding your innovative use of the feline euphemism for goats. Personally, it's usually been a rather intimate endearment (as in "ou est le chat, mon amour? ah, ici, cheri...") - which the now permanent images you've engraved on my brain will not enhance. I would think the more alliterative "goat twat"; or the more educational "caprine pudenda" would be preferable, in a household with young males abounding... :-) Obviously, you were asking yourself, “how do I start the blog off with a bang, for the new year?”

And I confess to being of several minds regarding your innovative use of the feline euphemism for goats. Personally, it’s usually been a rather intimate endearment (as in “ou est le chat, mon amour? ah, ici, cheri…”) – which the now permanent images you’ve engraved on my brain will not enhance.

I would think the more alliterative “goat twat”; or the more educational “caprine pudenda” would be preferable, in a household with young males abounding…

:-)

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By: Steven Earl Salmony http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-15789 Steven Earl Salmony Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:04:34 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2008/12/31/as-the-year-turns-so-our-thoughts-turnto-goat-sex/#comment-15789 Resolution for 2009: SPEAK OUT loudly, clearly and often Dear Friends, In calling for change in our time, great scientists are speaking about what could somehow be true to wealthy and powerful people who prefer that the "business as usual" status quo be maintained. Industrial/big business powerbrokers and their bought-and-paid-for politicians want to keep things going along just as they are going now, come what may for the children and coming generations, for life as we know it, for the integrity of Earth and its environs. Many voices are needed to support "voices in the wilderness" like those of Jim Hansen and John Holdren, exemplary scientists who have been willing to speak truth to those with the power to make the kinds of necessary change that make belief in a good enough future at least a possibility. Assuring a chance of a good future for the children and for life as we know it is an achievable goal that will lead us to overcome the arrogance and avarice of many too many leaders of my "Not So GREAT GREED GRAB Generation" of elders. If too many leaders of the family of humanity choose to keep doing precisely the things they are advocating and doing now, and if we in the human community keep getting what we are getting now, then it appears a sustainable world for our children cannot be achieved. By so doing, the limited resources of Earth will be permanently dissipated, its biodiversity massively extirpated, its environment irreversibly degraded and life as we know it recklessly endangered. The current gigantic scale and anticipated growth of per-capita overconsumption of limited resources, global production and distribution capabilities, and absolute human population numbers worldwide are simply, clearly and patently unsustainable, even to the year 2050. Given Earth's limitations as a relatively small, evidently finite and noticeably frangible planet, the projected increases in these currently unbridled consumption, production and propagation activities of the human species could soon lead the human family to come face to face with some sort of colossal ecological wreckage. Now is the time to speak out loudly, clearly and often about what is true for you. Forget about political correctness and convenience. Let go of economic expediency and greediness. Embrace necessary change rather than waste another day preserving the selfish interests of the small group of rich and powerful people, and their many minions, all of whom are adamantly and relentlessly defending an unsustainable, same old "business as usual" status quo. Steven Earl Salmony AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population, established 2001 http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176 Resolution for 2009: SPEAK OUT loudly, clearly and often

Dear Friends,

In calling for change in our time, great scientists are speaking about what could somehow be true to wealthy and powerful people who prefer that the “business as usual” status quo be maintained. Industrial/big business powerbrokers and their bought-and-paid-for politicians want to keep things going along just as they are going now, come what may for the children and coming generations, for life as we know it, for the integrity of Earth and its environs.

Many voices are needed to support “voices in the wilderness” like those of Jim Hansen and John Holdren, exemplary scientists who have been willing to speak truth to those with the power to make the kinds of necessary change that make belief in a good enough future at least a possibility. Assuring a chance of a good future for the children and for life as we know it is an achievable goal that will lead us to overcome the arrogance and avarice of many too many leaders of my “Not So GREAT GREED GRAB Generation” of elders.

If too many leaders of the family of humanity choose to keep doing precisely the things they are advocating and doing now, and if we in the human community keep getting what we are getting now, then it appears a sustainable world for our children cannot be achieved. By so doing, the limited resources of Earth will be permanently dissipated, its biodiversity massively extirpated, its environment irreversibly degraded and life as we know it recklessly endangered. The current gigantic scale and anticipated growth of per-capita overconsumption of limited resources, global production and distribution capabilities, and absolute human population numbers worldwide are simply, clearly and patently unsustainable, even to the year 2050. Given Earth’s limitations as a relatively small, evidently finite and noticeably frangible planet, the projected increases in these currently unbridled consumption, production and propagation activities of the human species could soon lead the human family to come face to face with some sort of colossal ecological wreckage.

Now is the time to speak out loudly, clearly and often about what is true for you. Forget about political correctness and convenience. Let go of economic expediency and greediness. Embrace necessary change rather than waste another day preserving the selfish interests of the small group of rich and powerful people, and their many minions, all of whom are adamantly and relentlessly defending an unsustainable, same old “business as usual” status quo.

Steven Earl Salmony
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population,
established 2001
http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176

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