Comments on: Perennials and Herbs From Seed http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/ Sharon Astyk's Ruminations on an Ambiguous Future Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:02:22 +0000 #?v=2.3.2 By: Green Assassin Brigade http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17118 Green Assassin Brigade Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:36:40 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17118 Fedco looks to have a great selection but what a nasty site and catalogue to manuever. Fedco looks to have a great selection but what a nasty site and catalogue to manuever.

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By: Claire http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17080 Claire Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:46:47 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17080 Sharon - how did you start butterfly weed (Asclepias tuberosa) in detail? I've tried three or four times, stratified and not stratified, and never got it going. Let me add a couple things to your list of perennials to start from seed: hickory and peach trees. For hickory, stratify the nuts in cold, moist conditions. The ones I got germinated quite well using this approach. Keep them in a critter-proof location when you are stratifying and germinating them; I lost some seeds to critters before I was successful. I started my peach seeds long enough ago that I don't remember exactly how I did it, but I think it was a warm moist stratification followed by a cold moist stratification, basically mimicking first late summer and fall, then winter. My favorite seed source is Fedco: www.fedcoseeds.com Sharon - how did you start butterfly weed (Asclepias tuberosa) in detail? I’ve tried three or four times, stratified and not stratified, and never got it going.

Let me add a couple things to your list of perennials to start from seed: hickory and peach trees. For hickory, stratify the nuts in cold, moist conditions. The ones I got germinated quite well using this approach. Keep them in a critter-proof location when you are stratifying and germinating them; I lost some seeds to critters before I was successful. I started my peach seeds long enough ago that I don’t remember exactly how I did it, but I think it was a warm moist stratification followed by a cold moist stratification, basically mimicking first late summer and fall, then winter.

My favorite seed source is Fedco: http://www.fedcoseeds.com

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By: dewey http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17058 dewey Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:21:57 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17058 Wow, your medicinal selection is amazing. I have had seeds from Richter's grow up the wrong species THREE times. Once is okay, three p***ed me off permanently. Wow, your medicinal selection is amazing.

I have had seeds from Richter’s grow up the wrong species THREE times. Once is okay, three p***ed me off permanently.

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By: Sharon http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17030 Sharon Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:47:44 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17030 Jen - Seminis (owned by Monsanto) is one of the largest seed suppliers in the world. Almost every catalog that doesn't explicitly reject them gets a lot of their seeds from them - and I certainly don't blame you for that priority. That said, however, sometimes Seminis is the only source for a variety - and I certainly wouldn't rather have the variety go extinct than have someone give them a little money. That's not always the trade off, of coures, but for some real oddities, there may not be a good set of choices - for most garden vegetables and common plants, though, there are. Sharon Jen - Seminis (owned by Monsanto) is one of the largest seed suppliers in the world. Almost every catalog that doesn’t explicitly reject them gets a lot of their seeds from them - and I certainly don’t blame you for that priority. That said, however, sometimes Seminis is the only source for a variety - and I certainly wouldn’t rather have the variety go extinct than have someone give them a little money. That’s not always the trade off, of coures, but for some real oddities, there may not be a good set of choices - for most garden vegetables and common plants, though, there are.

Sharon

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By: Survivalist News » Casaubon’s Book: Perennials and Herbs From Seed http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17018 Survivalist News » Casaubon’s Book: Perennials and Herbs From Seed Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:27:38 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17018 [...] Casaubon’s Book » Blog Archive » Perennials and Herbs From Seed Few of us, I suspect, can afford to fill our gardens with all the huge, healthy plants we’d love to own, ordered from the best nurseries. And yet what are those with dreams of cottage perennial gardens, food forests or big herb gardens to do if we can’t afford to order plants? Well, one option is to get division or other shared plants from friends, but you can also grow an astounding number of useful perennial plants from seed. And if you are prepared to wait a bit for them to hit maturity, you can fill your garden with beautiful plants you’ve known since they were in the seed stage. [...] […] Casaubon’s Book » Blog Archive » Perennials and Herbs From Seed Few of us, I suspect, can afford to fill our gardens with all the huge, healthy plants we’d love to own, ordered from the best nurseries. And yet what are those with dreams of cottage perennial gardens, food forests or big herb gardens to do if we can’t afford to order plants? Well, one option is to get division or other shared plants from friends, but you can also grow an astounding number of useful perennial plants from seed. And if you are prepared to wait a bit for them to hit maturity, you can fill your garden with beautiful plants you’ve known since they were in the seed stage. […]

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By: Jen http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17015 Jen Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:59:17 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17015 I just read the other day that Park Seed, about an hour from me, gets a lot of Monsanto seeds? I was going to order from them but...? I just read the other day that Park Seed, about an hour from me, gets a lot of Monsanto seeds? I was going to order from them but…?

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By: Sharon http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17009 Sharon Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:53:45 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17009 Hi Emily - Not on me it doesn't. But people do have different reactions to things. I can see why you'd be cautious ;-). Sharon Hi Emily - Not on me it doesn’t. But people do have different reactions to things. I can see why you’d be cautious ;-).

Sharon

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By: DEE http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17007 DEE Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:49:58 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17007 Husband tried growing tobacco once...the bugs adored it! Imagine it is a very sprayed crop commericially. He thought he'd have some for his pipe. Rhubard is easy to grow from seed...we have had no luck buying roots that will grow in the south but the plants seemed to settle right in...the kind is Glaskin's Perpetual from Pinetree--$1.30 pkt and they grew. Last year was the first time we had strawberry-rhubarb pie since moving form MI 20 years ago. As we did there we buried it in rotted horse manure last fall. Our neighbor grew sorgum and made syrup each year but sadly he passed away this winter...his dear wife says she'll help us learn how if we put in a patch so that is a big summer goal this year...that and planting some of Harry's sweet potatoes to keep them going. No idea what variety but he has grown them for years and years. DEE Husband tried growing tobacco once…the bugs adored it! Imagine it is a very sprayed crop commericially. He thought he’d have some for his pipe. Rhubard is easy to grow from seed…we have had no luck buying roots that will grow in the south but the plants seemed to settle right in…the kind is Glaskin’s Perpetual from Pinetree–$1.30 pkt and they grew. Last year was the first time we had strawberry-rhubarb pie since moving form MI 20 years ago. As we did there we buried it in rotted horse manure last fall. Our neighbor grew sorgum and made syrup each year but sadly he passed away this winter…his dear wife says she’ll help us learn how if we put in a patch so that is a big summer goal this year…that and planting some of Harry’s sweet potatoes to keep them going. No idea what variety but he has grown them for years and years. DEE

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By: Emily http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17006 Emily Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:44:11 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17006 Have you actually TIRED using Mullein as TP? Steve Brill says it raises a rash, and I've not wanted to chance it myself! Have you actually TIRED using Mullein as TP? Steve Brill says it raises a rash, and I’ve not wanted to chance it myself!

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By: Green Assassin Brigade http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17004 Green Assassin Brigade Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:02:27 +0000 http://sharonastyk.com/2009/02/03/perennials-and-herbs-from-seed/#comment-17004 Richters is a great place for unusual seeds and for those of us who live down the road from it, they've more varieties of potted herbs than I new existed, oregeno, mint, sage each have at least dozens varieties. Basil maybe 2 doz. They are also getting a fair number of medicinal plants including ones I did not expect like Ephedera, they also have a few surprising things people might buy for recreational use like diviners sage, apparently canadian drug laws are not keeping up with street use. Since I'm trying to build up a personal seed bank for emergency preparation (consumption or trade) I also picked up sugar beets, opium poppies, tobacco, to go with the more normal perenial herbs and fibre flax and cotton. Making your own molasas is not that hard, separating the sugar looks like it might be more work and might also need special equipment, it might be worth while so I bought a pack. Having opium poppy gives you a way make your own pain killer (Laudenum) should you need to ease a family members chronic pain or depending on your beliefs, helping someone end their suffering. Old habbits die hard and tobacco like Booze might be an ideal trade good. Not that I expect or want to spin and make my own clothes, but Flax and cotton seemed like something someone else might decide to try and I am trying to anticipate others needs not just my own. If only cannabis seeds were not $100+ for 10 I'd try to store some of those too. I'm sure if order collapses no one will care about a few plants in the woods. Richters is a great place for unusual seeds and for those of us who live down the road from it, they’ve more varieties of potted herbs than I new existed, oregeno, mint, sage each have at least dozens varieties. Basil maybe 2 doz.

They are also getting a fair number of medicinal plants including ones I did not expect like Ephedera, they also have a few surprising things people might buy for recreational use like diviners sage, apparently canadian drug laws are not keeping up with street use.

Since I’m trying to build up a personal seed bank for emergency preparation (consumption or trade) I also picked up sugar beets, opium poppies, tobacco, to go with the more normal perenial herbs and fibre flax and cotton.

Making your own molasas is not that hard, separating the sugar looks like it might be more work and might also need special equipment, it might be worth while so I bought a pack.

Having opium poppy gives you a way make your own pain killer (Laudenum) should you need to ease a family members chronic pain or depending on your beliefs, helping someone end their suffering.

Old habbits die hard and tobacco like Booze might be an ideal trade good.

Not that I expect or want to spin and make my own clothes, but Flax and cotton seemed like something someone else might decide to try and I am trying to anticipate others needs not just my own. If only cannabis seeds were not $100+ for 10 I’d try to store some of those too. I’m sure if order collapses no one will care about a few plants in the woods.

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