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	<title>Comments on: Indigeny Part I: Becoming Native To Your Place</title>
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		<title>By: Renea Munley</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2009/03/24/indigeny-part-i-becoming-native-to-your-place/comment-page-1/#comment-44962</link>
		<dc:creator>Renea Munley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 03:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy reading your blog posts but unfortunately this time you may have been too tired when writing because the article it feels rushed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy reading your blog posts but unfortunately this time you may have been too tired when writing because the article it feels rushed.</p>
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		<title>By: survival kits</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2009/03/24/indigeny-part-i-becoming-native-to-your-place/comment-page-1/#comment-37291</link>
		<dc:creator>survival kits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed this piece.  I really realized  a great deal.  I&#039;ll ask buddies to learn from it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this piece.  I really realized  a great deal.  I&#8217;ll ask buddies to learn from it too.</p>
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		<title>By: Casaubons Book Blog Archive Indigeny Part I: Becoming Native &#8230; &#124; Elderly Gear</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2009/03/24/indigeny-part-i-becoming-native-to-your-place/comment-page-1/#comment-14875</link>
		<dc:creator>Casaubons Book Blog Archive Indigeny Part I: Becoming Native &#8230; &#124; Elderly Gear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This chap put an intriguing blog post on Casaubons Book Blog Archive Indigeny Part I: Becoming Native &#8230;Here&#8217;s a quick excerptPosey- 1,621 results like the Posey Add-On Gait Belt Grips and Handles, Posey Fiesta Gait and Transfer Belts Length: 54&#8243;. Posey 6527L FIESTA GAIT BELT W/NICKEL BUCKLE 72 inch 12.92 Posey 6528Q-R NAVY BLUE GAIT BELT QUICK-RELEASE BUCKLE 12.99. Posey Gait Belt reef, model 6527 is fiesta stripe, model 65253 is lavender J T Posey Company. POSEY WHEELCHAIR WHEEL CHAIR X RAY X-RAY CHART POCKET Posey 6527L-R FIESTA GAIT BELT W/NICKEL BUCKLE 72&#8243; (350163141026) US 10.79. Gait Belt/ Transfer Belts-Variety of Colors- Safety Patient Walking Aid, Patient Safety Products- Southwest Manufacturer: Posey. Discount Health Aids- Transfer Belts from more than 5000 stores. The Posey Six Handled Gait Belt helps to prevent back injuries when assisting in Posey Fiesta Gait Belt Posey Six Handle Gait Belt. Health Aids- Transfer Belts comparison shopping website. Human Resources: Jobs at AAMC, benefits and recruitment gait disturbance (1) Ambulation with unsteady gait and no assistance [...] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This chap put an intriguing blog post on Casaubons Book Blog Archive Indigeny Part I: Becoming Native &#8230;Here&#8217;s a quick excerptPosey- 1,621 results like the Posey Add-On Gait Belt Grips and Handles, Posey Fiesta Gait and Transfer Belts Length: 54&#8243;. Posey 6527L FIESTA GAIT BELT W/NICKEL BUCKLE 72 inch 12.92 Posey 6528Q-R NAVY BLUE GAIT BELT QUICK-RELEASE BUCKLE 12.99. Posey Gait Belt reef, model 6527 is fiesta stripe, model 65253 is lavender J T Posey Company. POSEY WHEELCHAIR WHEEL CHAIR X RAY X-RAY CHART POCKET Posey 6527L-R FIESTA GAIT BELT W/NICKEL BUCKLE 72&#8243; (350163141026) US 10.79. Gait Belt/ Transfer Belts-Variety of Colors- Safety Patient Walking Aid, Patient Safety Products- Southwest Manufacturer: Posey. Discount Health Aids- Transfer Belts from more than 5000 stores. The Posey Six Handled Gait Belt helps to prevent back injuries when assisting in Posey Fiesta Gait Belt Posey Six Handle Gait Belt. Health Aids- Transfer Belts comparison shopping website. Human Resources: Jobs at AAMC, benefits and recruitment gait disturbance (1) Ambulation with unsteady gait and no assistance [...] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: News Briefs May 31-June 6/2009 &#124; www.new-right.org</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2009/03/24/indigeny-part-i-becoming-native-to-your-place/comment-page-1/#comment-14874</link>
		<dc:creator>News Briefs May 31-June 6/2009 &#124; www.new-right.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Indigeny: Becoming Native To Your Place. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Indigeny: Becoming Native To Your Place. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Project of Indigeny &#171; Pages Left Unturned</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2009/03/24/indigeny-part-i-becoming-native-to-your-place/comment-page-1/#comment-14873</link>
		<dc:creator>Project of Indigeny &#171; Pages Left Unturned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a collection of indigenous cultures that can compete with the bright lights of modernity. - Indigeny Part I: Becoming Native to Your Place (Casaubon&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a collection of indigenous cultures that can compete with the bright lights of modernity. &#8211; Indigeny Part I: Becoming Native to Your Place (Casaubon&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: vera</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2009/03/24/indigeny-part-i-becoming-native-to-your-place/comment-page-1/#comment-14872</link>
		<dc:creator>vera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modern townies are just about the most conformist, clueless band of humans that ever lived. Oh sure, you can walk in NYC in your PJs and pierced everything, etc etc... but what&#039;s your life about? Free to consume, free to hide if you are a sociopath, free to parasitize on the hinterlands, free to hold cockamamie beliefs thought up by some other clueless intellectuals. That&#039;s freedom? Small groups expect people to hew to a certain set of values, but when it comes to non-conformity to the larger world and its crap, they are often way ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modern townies are just about the most conformist, clueless band of humans that ever lived. Oh sure, you can walk in NYC in your PJs and pierced everything, etc etc&#8230; but what&#8217;s your life about? Free to consume, free to hide if you are a sociopath, free to parasitize on the hinterlands, free to hold cockamamie beliefs thought up by some other clueless intellectuals. That&#8217;s freedom? Small groups expect people to hew to a certain set of values, but when it comes to non-conformity to the larger world and its crap, they are often way ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2009/03/24/indigeny-part-i-becoming-native-to-your-place/comment-page-1/#comment-14871</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greenpa....

and his evil twin, Groinpa!!!!

I knew, yes, about the Sambia. And other such cultures. But then, I am a history teacher and sponsor the LGBT club here.

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greenpa&#8230;.</p>
<p>and his evil twin, Groinpa!!!!</p>
<p>I knew, yes, about the Sambia. And other such cultures. But then, I am a history teacher and sponsor the LGBT club here.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Greenpa</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2009/03/24/indigeny-part-i-becoming-native-to-your-place/comment-page-1/#comment-14870</link>
		<dc:creator>Greenpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dveej; and Sharon- &quot;These traditional cultures have no room for gays and lesbians. &quot;

As Sharon pointed out, there are good examples of traditional cultures that embraced homosexual individuals as &quot;normal&quot; variations.

I would go on to say there are &quot;many&quot; such examples- but their existence is often obscured by early missionary influence.  Christian missionaries were of course horrified at &quot;primitive&quot; sexuality.  One of the first things they taught them was that sex was evil- all sex, of course, but homosexuality most of all.

Consequently, many later accounts of life in the older culture have homosexuality erased from existence- the converted or educated &quot;savages&quot; being now ashamed and horrified to the point of denying it ever happened.

An example few are aware of; in Melanesian and New Guinea cultures, it was almost universal for young boys to perform fellatio on the adult men, regularly.  Because, they said, the boys could not become sexually mature, without that special food.

That&#039;s not the same as what we consider homosexuality; but knowledge of the existence of the practice- which was virtually universal- has been almost completely expunged.

I&#039;d be interested in knowing how many of the readers here knew about this practice.  Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dveej; and Sharon- &#8220;These traditional cultures have no room for gays and lesbians. &#8221;</p>
<p>As Sharon pointed out, there are good examples of traditional cultures that embraced homosexual individuals as &#8220;normal&#8221; variations.</p>
<p>I would go on to say there are &#8220;many&#8221; such examples- but their existence is often obscured by early missionary influence.  Christian missionaries were of course horrified at &#8220;primitive&#8221; sexuality.  One of the first things they taught them was that sex was evil- all sex, of course, but homosexuality most of all.</p>
<p>Consequently, many later accounts of life in the older culture have homosexuality erased from existence- the converted or educated &#8220;savages&#8221; being now ashamed and horrified to the point of denying it ever happened.</p>
<p>An example few are aware of; in Melanesian and New Guinea cultures, it was almost universal for young boys to perform fellatio on the adult men, regularly.  Because, they said, the boys could not become sexually mature, without that special food.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not the same as what we consider homosexuality; but knowledge of the existence of the practice- which was virtually universal- has been almost completely expunged.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in knowing how many of the readers here knew about this practice.  Anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Nowherebeach</title>
		<link>http://sharonastyk.com/2009/03/24/indigeny-part-i-becoming-native-to-your-place/comment-page-1/#comment-14869</link>
		<dc:creator>Nowherebeach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another important benefit from staying in one location for many years: accumulated wealth is passed on from one generation to the next. Wealth doesn&#039;t necessarily mean money. It may be furniture, tools, outbuildings on the family farm, etc. It all adds up and helps families and communities prosper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another important benefit from staying in one location for many years: accumulated wealth is passed on from one generation to the next. Wealth doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean money. It may be furniture, tools, outbuildings on the family farm, etc. It all adds up and helps families and communities prosper.</p>
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		<title>By: galacticsurfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>galacticsurfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice to see such an analysis of traditional cultures. All the modern alienation is because we have no connection to past or knowledge of where we are going so that the present seems meaningless. Stadtluft ist frei. Freedom to do what is the question? When life is familiar then rituals grow up to express what is in our soul. Like ancient celtic rituals 4 times a year

http://www.packrat-pro.com/celts/celtholidays.htm


At any rate I read a book about the old celtic mythology and culture and they saw things differently than we do and the mythology is not just fairy tales but has deep spiritual meanings. I understand how James Joyce in his internationalist hatred of the small town Ireland in &quot;The Dead&quot; and similar could turn his back on a country already far away from its tribal roots (and poets,etc. reviving nationalism based on such mythological figures, cuchulainn,etc.) but 2000 years ago the people were not just living a small town life lacking in &quot;Stadtluft&quot; but were part of nature. Lacking a comparison with some supposedly better more materialistic more powerful culture(coke, hoolywood, automobile) is probably helpful for the development of a sustainable culture with independent spiritual meaning. Isolation and localization is probably important for cultural evolutuion in this case. Freedom from global conformity is also important for people to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice to see such an analysis of traditional cultures. All the modern alienation is because we have no connection to past or knowledge of where we are going so that the present seems meaningless. Stadtluft ist frei. Freedom to do what is the question? When life is familiar then rituals grow up to express what is in our soul. Like ancient celtic rituals 4 times a year</p>
<p><a href="http://www.packrat-pro.com/celts/celtholidays.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.packrat-pro.com/celts/celtholidays.htm</a></p>
<p>At any rate I read a book about the old celtic mythology and culture and they saw things differently than we do and the mythology is not just fairy tales but has deep spiritual meanings. I understand how James Joyce in his internationalist hatred of the small town Ireland in &#8220;The Dead&#8221; and similar could turn his back on a country already far away from its tribal roots (and poets,etc. reviving nationalism based on such mythological figures, cuchulainn,etc.) but 2000 years ago the people were not just living a small town life lacking in &#8220;Stadtluft&#8221; but were part of nature. Lacking a comparison with some supposedly better more materialistic more powerful culture(coke, hoolywood, automobile) is probably helpful for the development of a sustainable culture with independent spiritual meaning. Isolation and localization is probably important for cultural evolutuion in this case. Freedom from global conformity is also important for people to live.</p>
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