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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharon,
I agree with what you say, just not the way you said it .
As you state in ANOF, personal responsibility needs to be reinforced.  If someone has two homes they can no longer afford, the bank simply repossess one or both and they move in with relatives.
That&#039;s the way it has always been.
I say skip the government intervention part.
You mention a few pages later in the book that you
are willing to move public opinion in ways you think are wise, provided you are telling the truth.
This is commendable and altruistic, but also somewhat naive because someone (politician or deep pocket who funds politicians) is bound to see a way to profit from this and take manipulate the system to their advantage.
Connected people made huge sums following the Savings and Loan bailout.
I have no reason to doubt that the same people are making or will make fortunes on this spending spree (=bailout=tarp)
While I remain hopeful on the person by person level, I am extremely jaded on the system level.
Any federal bailout should be not-for-profit, but that seems unrealistic.
Now that I have finished ANOF, on to Depletion and Abundance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon,<br />
I agree with what you say, just not the way you said it .<br />
As you state in ANOF, personal responsibility needs to be reinforced.  If someone has two homes they can no longer afford, the bank simply repossess one or both and they move in with relatives.<br />
That&#8217;s the way it has always been.<br />
I say skip the government intervention part.<br />
You mention a few pages later in the book that you<br />
are willing to move public opinion in ways you think are wise, provided you are telling the truth.<br />
This is commendable and altruistic, but also somewhat naive because someone (politician or deep pocket who funds politicians) is bound to see a way to profit from this and take manipulate the system to their advantage.<br />
Connected people made huge sums following the Savings and Loan bailout.<br />
I have no reason to doubt that the same people are making or will make fortunes on this spending spree (=bailout=tarp)<br />
While I remain hopeful on the person by person level, I am extremely jaded on the system level.<br />
Any federal bailout should be not-for-profit, but that seems unrealistic.<br />
Now that I have finished ANOF, on to Depletion and Abundance.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ex, I guess that&#039;s the point - populist movements can be precursors to all sorts of bad things - or they can be antidotes to them.

The reality is that there are numbers of people who face losing both first and second homes - should they have been allowed to buy them?  No, but we&#039;re where we are.  Again, as I said, if they can pay for &#039;em, they can have them. But if you take a government handout, you only get one, and tough patooties.  If that makes me a pinko, I&#039;m good with it.

I tend to agree with you about government involvement - in an ideal world.  But since we&#039;ve already got massive, massive government involvement, for me the question is &quot;how do we shift the emphasis from saving the rich to saving the poor.&quot;

I&#039;m not offended by your disagreement, though, and you don&#039;t owe me an apology.

Sharon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ex, I guess that&#8217;s the point &#8211; populist movements can be precursors to all sorts of bad things &#8211; or they can be antidotes to them.</p>
<p>The reality is that there are numbers of people who face losing both first and second homes &#8211; should they have been allowed to buy them?  No, but we&#8217;re where we are.  Again, as I said, if they can pay for &#8216;em, they can have them. But if you take a government handout, you only get one, and tough patooties.  If that makes me a pinko, I&#8217;m good with it.</p>
<p>I tend to agree with you about government involvement &#8211; in an ideal world.  But since we&#8217;ve already got massive, massive government involvement, for me the question is &#8220;how do we shift the emphasis from saving the rich to saving the poor.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not offended by your disagreement, though, and you don&#8217;t owe me an apology.</p>
<p>Sharon</p>
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		<title>By: Ex</title>
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		<description>Sharon--I owe you an apology, as I broke two of my internet posting rules: no posting after imbibing, and asking for clarification before denigrating a post.
I think the less the government is involved the better. There are few &#039;temporary&#039; governmental measures that do not seem to become permanent. There is already a system in place for people who are over-extended--
it is called forfeiture and/or bankruptcy.
I got shivers down my spine when I read your line
&quot;your vacation home is forfeit and given to someone else&quot;.
I am unsure how anyone who may not be able to afford the mortgage on their primary residence would be in a position to even own a vacation home, unless it was already paid for, or inherited
and thus owned free and clear.
I may have mis-interpreted your intent, but that is one scary phrase.
Political opportunism appears to be increasing--
we need to aware of the risk of losing our freedoms due to a surge in populism or political expediency.
My mention of communism and nazism was a leap, admittedly, but a fear of an over-reaction against certain groups that leads down a slippery slope.
You may be more versed on this topic, but this quote from Wikipedia (sorry) sums it up:

Populist movements can be precursors for, or building blocks for, fascist movements.[13][14][15] Conspiracist scapegoating employed by various populist movements can create &quot;a seedbed for fascism.&quot;[16] National socialist populism interacted with and facilitated fascism in interwar Germany.[17] In this case, distressed middle–class populists during the pre-Nazi Weimar period mobilized their anger at government and big business. The Nazis &quot;parasitized the forms and themes of the populists and moved their constituencies far to the right through ideological appeals involving demagoguery, scapegoating, and conspiracism.&quot;[18</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon&#8211;I owe you an apology, as I broke two of my internet posting rules: no posting after imbibing, and asking for clarification before denigrating a post.<br />
I think the less the government is involved the better. There are few &#8216;temporary&#8217; governmental measures that do not seem to become permanent. There is already a system in place for people who are over-extended&#8211;<br />
it is called forfeiture and/or bankruptcy.<br />
I got shivers down my spine when I read your line<br />
&#8220;your vacation home is forfeit and given to someone else&#8221;.<br />
I am unsure how anyone who may not be able to afford the mortgage on their primary residence would be in a position to even own a vacation home, unless it was already paid for, or inherited<br />
and thus owned free and clear.<br />
I may have mis-interpreted your intent, but that is one scary phrase.<br />
Political opportunism appears to be increasing&#8211;<br />
we need to aware of the risk of losing our freedoms due to a surge in populism or political expediency.<br />
My mention of communism and nazism was a leap, admittedly, but a fear of an over-reaction against certain groups that leads down a slippery slope.<br />
You may be more versed on this topic, but this quote from Wikipedia (sorry) sums it up:</p>
<p>Populist movements can be precursors for, or building blocks for, fascist movements.[13][14][15] Conspiracist scapegoating employed by various populist movements can create &#8220;a seedbed for fascism.&#8221;[16] National socialist populism interacted with and facilitated fascism in interwar Germany.[17] In this case, distressed middle–class populists during the pre-Nazi Weimar period mobilized their anger at government and big business. The Nazis &#8220;parasitized the forms and themes of the populists and moved their constituencies far to the right through ideological appeals involving demagoguery, scapegoating, and conspiracism.&#8221;[18</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I play to follow the Sharon Astyk method of seduction: get hot and sweaty in the garden, and the roll around on the soil &#8212; should get me a man and a spare (I rather like ones in kilts, esp. when worn with rugger shirts). I have the garden and (ahem) the furrow. Man pleasing food is a bit in short supply though, as I now have to eat up 8 very LARGES cans of cut French Beans.</p>
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