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		<title>By: Lynwood Mcnail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynwood Mcnail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kieth Brilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieth Brilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Parkett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parkett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Massivholzdielen und Parkett</description>
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		<title>By: Green-Washing Gates Foundation Style &#124; Bit of Earth Farm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green-Washing Gates Foundation Style &#124; Bit of Earth Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 20:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] yields continue to improve around the world. As Sharon Astyk notes in her brilliant blog Casaubon’s Book,“We presently grow enough food to feed 9 billion people.  That’s an astonishing realization [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] yields continue to improve around the world. As Sharon Astyk notes in her brilliant blog Casaubon’s Book,“We presently grow enough food to feed 9 billion people.  That’s an astonishing realization [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PKS</title>
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		<dc:creator>PKS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, the biofuel &quot;feed cars or feed people&quot; choice is a guaranteed mug&#039;s game, solution unsatisfactory. Even if you ignore the human misery implicit, starvation will eventually be a threat to all of us, because of war and conflict.

This is why the only viable biofuel is biodiesel from algae. It can be grown (has to be grown, for decent yields) in bioreactor tanks, but that means you don&#039;t have do displace food crops. You can grow it in marginal areas or in deserts or something.

I like your writing, but I disagree with you on the need to scale down our lifestyles. We&#039;re really lucky that the climate crisis brought us to this point now, instead of say 50 years ago, when a number of techs didn&#039;t exist.

Our society is going to, I believe, live or die as a high energy one. The idea of living a lower energy lifestyle is basically a non-starter politically.  But existing tech is completely capable of maintaining our current high-energy lifestyle, but with zero carbon emissions.

All the problems are political and economic. No money for health care? Well, almost all US large corporations paid virtually zero taxes, for example. They can afford, I think, a non-zero level of taxes.

TINA - there is no alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, the biofuel &#8220;feed cars or feed people&#8221; choice is a guaranteed mug&#8217;s game, solution unsatisfactory. Even if you ignore the human misery implicit, starvation will eventually be a threat to all of us, because of war and conflict.</p>
<p>This is why the only viable biofuel is biodiesel from algae. It can be grown (has to be grown, for decent yields) in bioreactor tanks, but that means you don&#8217;t have do displace food crops. You can grow it in marginal areas or in deserts or something.</p>
<p>I like your writing, but I disagree with you on the need to scale down our lifestyles. We&#8217;re really lucky that the climate crisis brought us to this point now, instead of say 50 years ago, when a number of techs didn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>Our society is going to, I believe, live or die as a high energy one. The idea of living a lower energy lifestyle is basically a non-starter politically.  But existing tech is completely capable of maintaining our current high-energy lifestyle, but with zero carbon emissions.</p>
<p>All the problems are political and economic. No money for health care? Well, almost all US large corporations paid virtually zero taxes, for example. They can afford, I think, a non-zero level of taxes.</p>
<p>TINA &#8211; there is no alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: vera</title>
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		<dc:creator>vera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Greenpa. I have seen some of the stats you refer to! Bah humbug.

Staggering statistics... time to downcrank the food machine and give the planet a break.

Problem is... the people who see the wastage and maldistribution as a fixable issue tend to be blind to the underlying systemic problem: the artificial creation of scarcity to make a profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Greenpa. I have seen some of the stats you refer to! Bah humbug.</p>
<p>Staggering statistics&#8230; time to downcrank the food machine and give the planet a break.</p>
<p>Problem is&#8230; the people who see the wastage and maldistribution as a fixable issue tend to be blind to the underlying systemic problem: the artificial creation of scarcity to make a profit.</p>
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		<title>By: Greenpa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greenpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally- if anyone thinks my use of food statistics is just incredibly amateurish- I invite you to examine in detail the arena of world food statistics.  You&#039;ll find my loosey-goosey uses a step up from standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally- if anyone thinks my use of food statistics is just incredibly amateurish- I invite you to examine in detail the arena of world food statistics.  You&#8217;ll find my loosey-goosey uses a step up from standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Greenpa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greenpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vera- sorry, I grew up with an engineer father who had the times tables up to 15 100% accessible in his head at all times- we were supposed to just calculate with anything he threw at us.  I wasn&#039;t good at it.

Anyway- everything is there in my post;

We&#039;re keeping 6.whatever billion alive at the moment; current crop production can be called 100%

Pre and post harvest losses, from crop reports, are 20% 1st wrld, 60% 3rd; if you figure 1 and 3 are each about half of world total (a fair guess), then 40% of total is lost there.  So; we&#039;re at 60% of crop total feeds 6.whatever.

Plus- 50% of THAT is thrown out in the garbage; now we&#039;re down to 30% of crops produced.

Theoretically then, if we actually delivered 100% of crop to feed people, it could be keeping at least 3X 6 billion alive.  Oh, wait, that&#039;s 18 billion, isn&#039;t it?  More, actually.

I DEhyperbolized that number because it&#039;s too freaking unbelievable.

There are a TON of other changes possible too.  Read Mark Bittman&#039;s post from a couple days ago, and look at the chart.  This is what we in the US are spending our food dollars for-

http://bitten.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/16/what-were-eating/

quite horrifying- and another massive spike in the coffin of the idea that we must produce more crops.

People starve for politics; and profit.  Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vera- sorry, I grew up with an engineer father who had the times tables up to 15 100% accessible in his head at all times- we were supposed to just calculate with anything he threw at us.  I wasn&#8217;t good at it.</p>
<p>Anyway- everything is there in my post;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re keeping 6.whatever billion alive at the moment; current crop production can be called 100%</p>
<p>Pre and post harvest losses, from crop reports, are 20% 1st wrld, 60% 3rd; if you figure 1 and 3 are each about half of world total (a fair guess), then 40% of total is lost there.  So; we&#8217;re at 60% of crop total feeds 6.whatever.</p>
<p>Plus- 50% of THAT is thrown out in the garbage; now we&#8217;re down to 30% of crops produced.</p>
<p>Theoretically then, if we actually delivered 100% of crop to feed people, it could be keeping at least 3X 6 billion alive.  Oh, wait, that&#8217;s 18 billion, isn&#8217;t it?  More, actually.</p>
<p>I DEhyperbolized that number because it&#8217;s too freaking unbelievable.</p>
<p>There are a TON of other changes possible too.  Read Mark Bittman&#8217;s post from a couple days ago, and look at the chart.  This is what we in the US are spending our food dollars for-</p>
<p><a href="http://bitten.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/16/what-were-eating/" rel="nofollow">http://bitten.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/16/what-were-eating/</a></p>
<p>quite horrifying- and another massive spike in the coffin of the idea that we must produce more crops.</p>
<p>People starve for politics; and profit.  Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate-B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate-B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The average poor person in the US doesn&#039;t (or hasn&#039;t) thought overly much about food.  They know they haven&#039;t much money and they eat what&#039;s cheap and easy.  Truthfully, most of them dont want to think about food.

Priorities for most American poor people, food is more like a secondary issue.  First, a place to live (or sleep) for family then self or health concerns.  Next, things like clothing that immediately identify you as destitute or not (unless you gave up caring).  Next come other issues such as whether you feel despair and want to escape (alcohol, drugs, gambling, movies, cable tv, etc) or education and planning for the future.  Food fits somewhere into that category.

Most of the folks I&#039;ve seen trying to address this issue of food security are middle-class, but poor folks get inspired once they feel they have some dignity and yes, much of that sense of dignity is derived from a feeling of gross injustice.
My perspective for what it&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The average poor person in the US doesn&#8217;t (or hasn&#8217;t) thought overly much about food.  They know they haven&#8217;t much money and they eat what&#8217;s cheap and easy.  Truthfully, most of them dont want to think about food.</p>
<p>Priorities for most American poor people, food is more like a secondary issue.  First, a place to live (or sleep) for family then self or health concerns.  Next, things like clothing that immediately identify you as destitute or not (unless you gave up caring).  Next come other issues such as whether you feel despair and want to escape (alcohol, drugs, gambling, movies, cable tv, etc) or education and planning for the future.  Food fits somewhere into that category.</p>
<p>Most of the folks I&#8217;ve seen trying to address this issue of food security are middle-class, but poor folks get inspired once they feel they have some dignity and yes, much of that sense of dignity is derived from a feeling of gross injustice.<br />
My perspective for what it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Corinne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corinne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just finished reading a book which clarifies just how much food is being produced, and wasted, in the world, and more specifically in the developed countries: &quot;Waste: Uncovering the Global Food Scandal&quot;, by Tristram Stuart, published this year. The author has pulled together an amazing amount of facts, information and personal research to try to pin down exactly how much food is being wasted at each stage: grower, manufacturer, distributor, household.

From reading his book, I gather that up to half of the food worldwide is wasted, and in the U.K. for instance, the estimate seems to be at around 70%. He includes a chapter with a wonderful historical accounting of food surpluses and their role in the rise and fall of populations as well as empires. And the later chapters recount various efforts around the world to reduce, re-use, recycle food waste.

In short, highly recommended.

Corinne in Paris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just finished reading a book which clarifies just how much food is being produced, and wasted, in the world, and more specifically in the developed countries: &#8220;Waste: Uncovering the Global Food Scandal&#8221;, by Tristram Stuart, published this year. The author has pulled together an amazing amount of facts, information and personal research to try to pin down exactly how much food is being wasted at each stage: grower, manufacturer, distributor, household.</p>
<p>From reading his book, I gather that up to half of the food worldwide is wasted, and in the U.K. for instance, the estimate seems to be at around 70%. He includes a chapter with a wonderful historical accounting of food surpluses and their role in the rise and fall of populations as well as empires. And the later chapters recount various efforts around the world to reduce, re-use, recycle food waste.</p>
<p>In short, highly recommended.</p>
<p>Corinne in Paris</p>
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